Hopefully GrapheneOS can be my solution since I’ve got a Pixel 7a, but I first need to move over all my 2FA accounts because Twilio Authy does not work on GrapheneOS 😭
1 plus for Aegis.
Backup all your codes to an encrypted file you can do whatever you want with.
No cloud, no “automagic”, no obfuscation.
True peace of mind.
I’m going to wait for someone else to figure out a workaround and write a tutorial. Then wait for some indian youtuber to make a video tutorial out of that.
Dude, why do half the Indian YouTubers sound like mumble rappers. Hell, they’re better than me because they probably speak 3+ languages, but they can’t think it’s good for their viewership.
I’m probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don’t seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I’ve heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/
Biggest drawback is it’s based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn’t worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.
Collection of different experiences I’ve variously seen online over the last year or so:
I don’t own one, myself, so I can’t give any personal experience but I’ve seen it around for a few years now but most people don’t seem to even know about it. Maybe there’s a reason for that? But none I’ve ever seen anyone say.
(all that said, – if they take PayPal – I’m gonna buy one with PayPal credit as soon as humanly feasible; the end goal, for me, was always to move to Mobile Linux, eventually, so I’m very interested to try out if this makes it finally feasible, for me)
This is what I have my eye on. That or a sailfish phone. Reviews seem really good so they gives me hope. Still going to be inconsistencies but that’s a tradeoff I’d make.
FLX1 has an audio jack, SD card, and removable battery?? If they continue to develop this (if it doesn’t die by the wayside, as the others have), and Signal continues to work on it, I’m in! From this cursory look, it seems to be exactly what I was looking for.
Edit: holy crap. It’s bigger than the Pixel 7 Pro.
Sure, they are really good on the right-to-repair issue, but that’s because they want to be more independent and less reliant on other countries to make new phones. As for privacy and information control, the government don’t really have an incentive to give people more privacy and freedoms. They are still trying to pass chat control with a majority of the EU members in support (the only reason its not passed yet is because EU laws need to be unanimous)
You obviously don’t understand EU, it’s far from only right to repair, but EU has many protections against American shenanigans, like tracking and storing of personal data, and right to be forgotten (GDPR). EU Also dictated Apple should allow sideloading, something Apple of course mostly circumvented, but they could face steep fines for that too.
EU also has way stricter regulation than USA and UK on mass surveillance. And generally way better consumer protection than USA.
EU also mandates de-anonymisation online: (1). EU also plans to have every single message one sends to be scanned by them.
I think the reasoning behind their decisions is simply summed up as: more power to the EU administration, less freedom for everyone else, be it US tech giants, EU citizens or small software developers.
The 10 might not get graphene due to changes in the way the hardware is done. If you want graphene now, grab a pixel 9 instead. Or at least wait till they have an official statement for it.
Honestly, last year I started a “tech reclaimation” period where I was reclaiming my time from corporate social media to free myself from the (as arctic monkeys put it) “endless stream of great tv”.
I’ve moved to selfhosting almost all my services and have gone back to physical media (except my digital backup library) for most games and movies.
The detox has been nice, I enjoy games again, I can experience boredom and all the inspiration that comes with it. Life is good. Disconnection is bliss.
Stay on GrapheneOS as long as I can, then look for an alternative OS like trying Linux phones again and maybe they will be ready for prime time by then (hope springs eternal and all that).
Im starting to get to a point where I don’t even want to have a phone anymore. Like fuck people in general lol I don’t have many who call or text anyway. The browsing I do I can just stick to my PC.
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Hopefully GrapheneOS can be my solution since I’ve got a Pixel 7a, but I first need to move over all my 2FA accounts because Twilio Authy does not work on GrapheneOS 😭
FYI, Aegis works on GrapheneOS if you need a recommendation (in terms of an app for 2FA).
1 plus for Aegis.
Backup all your codes to an encrypted file you can do whatever you want with.
No cloud, no “automagic”, no obfuscation.
True peace of mind.
I’m going to wait for someone else to figure out a workaround and write a tutorial. Then wait for some indian youtuber to make a video tutorial out of that.
Without someone mumbling into a buzzing mic, I don’t believe its authenticity.
Dude, why do half the Indian YouTubers sound like mumble rappers. Hell, they’re better than me because they probably speak 3+ languages, but they can’t think it’s good for their viewership.
I’m probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don’t seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I’ve heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/
Biggest drawback is it’s based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn’t worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.
Collection of different experiences I’ve variously seen online over the last year or so:
I don’t own one, myself, so I can’t give any personal experience but I’ve seen it around for a few years now but most people don’t seem to even know about it. Maybe there’s a reason for that? But none I’ve ever seen anyone say.
(all that said, – if they take PayPal – I’m gonna buy one with PayPal credit as soon as humanly feasible; the end goal, for me, was always to move to Mobile Linux, eventually, so I’m very interested to try out if this makes it finally feasible, for me)
This is what I have my eye on. That or a sailfish phone. Reviews seem really good so they gives me hope. Still going to be inconsistencies but that’s a tradeoff I’d make.
FLX1 has an audio jack, SD card, and removable battery?? If they continue to develop this (if it doesn’t die by the wayside, as the others have), and Signal continues to work on it, I’m in! From this cursory look, it seems to be exactly what I was looking for.
Edit: holy crap. It’s bigger than the Pixel 7 Pro.
I think I want this. I just can’t do without rcs messaging. My family won’t switch to the apps
I’m probably going to have get a separate phone for work, need a few apps that I don’t foresee working on a Linux phone anytime soon.
“The apps don’t work on my phone” won’t fly as an excuse lol, and I like my job most days.
This is likely my result as well. I’ve tried to avoid needing 2 phones but… I think it’ll be nice to explore Linux phone options.
Well hey, having clear separation between work and personal could be a plus. Hopefully enough to offset the annoyance of carrying 2 devices…
my plan is not updating my phone until the google plan is reversed.
If this actually happens, my next phone will probably be a dumb phone, unless I can find a true linux phone.
I use F-droid for everything. I’d truly be fucked.
Chaos and rebellion.
Sell off any phones that I can’t modify. Aggressively de-Google while setting up fake accounts to send garbage into their system training.
Light my way with the burning of bridges.
Not updating my phone for now. Installing a custom ROM on my next phone
Hoping that EU comes to the rescue.
Nah they wont.
Sure, they are really good on the right-to-repair issue, but that’s because they want to be more independent and less reliant on other countries to make new phones. As for privacy and information control, the government don’t really have an incentive to give people more privacy and freedoms. They are still trying to pass chat control with a majority of the EU members in support (the only reason its not passed yet is because EU laws need to be unanimous)
You obviously don’t understand EU, it’s far from only right to repair, but EU has many protections against American shenanigans, like tracking and storing of personal data, and right to be forgotten (GDPR). EU Also dictated Apple should allow sideloading, something Apple of course mostly circumvented, but they could face steep fines for that too.
EU also has way stricter regulation than USA and UK on mass surveillance. And generally way better consumer protection than USA.
EU also mandates de-anonymisation online: (1). EU also plans to have every single message one sends to be scanned by them.
I think the reasoning behind their decisions is simply summed up as: more power to the EU administration, less freedom for everyone else, be it US tech giants, EU citizens or small software developers.
FUD
google saw that EU allowed apple to do something similar, so why not take the chance to lock the garden…
Trying to import a Pixel 10 from outside of the states for the Sim slot.
Then GrapheneOS and run it into the ground.
I really hope Graphene partners with Fairphone, helps them get their security up to par, and make the Fairphone the official Graphene phone.
Then I could just use Fairphone forever.
The 10 might not get graphene due to changes in the way the hardware is done. If you want graphene now, grab a pixel 9 instead. Or at least wait till they have an official statement for it.
They have officially stated that they can support the 10 now, but it will have to wait until after the port to QPR1. https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1960792610114511190#m
Ahh right on. Hadn’t seen that. Thanks for telling me!
I’ll stay on GrapheneOS as long as possible. And if it stops, I’ll get a Linux phone.
Strongly Considering going back to a Prepaid burner style and just carrying a laptop everywhere.
I don’t need to be that connected.
The Punkt Mp02 would be great for that.
You get a feature phone that can still do hotspot so you can get data to your laptop
Oh my god that’s incredible
Your brain will thank you!
Honestly, last year I started a “tech reclaimation” period where I was reclaiming my time from corporate social media to free myself from the (as arctic monkeys put it) “endless stream of great tv”.
I’ve moved to selfhosting almost all my services and have gone back to physical media (except my digital backup library) for most games and movies.
The detox has been nice, I enjoy games again, I can experience boredom and all the inspiration that comes with it. Life is good. Disconnection is bliss.
Stay on GrapheneOS as long as I can, then look for an alternative OS like trying Linux phones again and maybe they will be ready for prime time by then (hope springs eternal and all that).
Im starting to get to a point where I don’t even want to have a phone anymore. Like fuck people in general lol I don’t have many who call or text anyway. The browsing I do I can just stick to my PC.