I have been wanting to play this game since it was announced. However, I prefer single player games. I know this game is designed for 3 players, but I read that they were going to add 2 player and maybe single player support. have they made it any better for us loners? I don’t really want to play with randoms either.
It already supports single player 🩷 Enemy health, poise, and runes are adjusted to balance the lack of teammates. You can also buy a few Wending Graces that will allow you to self-revive since you won’t have teammates to revive you. Some of the final day bosses can actually be easier to manage solo. I sooo recommend the game, and I also recommend giving multiplayer a chance when you’re comfortable with the overall loop and navigating the map. While I do occasionally get a mess of a team, I would say the majority of my matchmade runs have been super smooth and fun!
I was watching a friend who got it and he tried it solo initially before swapping to online play and it seemed waaaay harder. Not sure if he screwed up a setting and it was really the 3 player version or something.
Both with friends and with random players. The map pinging system honestly works so well for the pace of the game! The goal to be as efficient and quick as possible generally doesn’t leave much room for arguing or debates which makes things feel so not toxic. Someone usually just takes control of routing, puts a pin down, you or the other player can place a pin in the same location to second the vote, or you can place a pin where you think is best and the other players can second it or not. When I’m playing with friends they leave the routing up to me, but when we’re playing with a matchmade player it’s 50/50 if they’ll be routing or I will. Sometimes it’s chaos, but it’s usually super smooth!
Have they changed the game a lot since launch? When I was watching the reviews of it, everyone made it seem like you have to have a cohesive party all working together and using their skills properly and the game is impossible solo.
From what I saw, solo is a lot easier than coop (streams of the game, not played it myself yet). Enemies have basically no HP, and you can predict what they do, just like in a normal Souls game. Also, you’re not getting matched with randoms.
If you’re playing with friends, sit in voice chat, that might get easier for you again.
In co-op you have fully infinite lives, your teammates can pick you up at any time and even if they fail to do so you’ll respawn back at a grace. If you fall over in a boss fight you have an unlimited timer to be picked back up and automatically rez at the end of the fight even if they don’t do it.
In solo you’re fighting a boss intended for 3 players and if you die twice the game is over completely.
Co-op, even with randoms, is much much easier by an order of magnitude. I’m usually a solo player in most games and thought this would be awful for me, it isn’t at all. Map pings are plenty of communication for most matches. It is, however, definitely better with friends on a voice call.
In solo you’re fighting a boss intended for 3 players and if you die twice the game is over completely.
Ok, but what if…you just kill bosses in five hits, because they don’t have any HP?
It’s an overexaggeration of course, but the enemies definitely have a lot less HP than in coop, not even just 1/3 or whatever (seemingly).
Also, are the enemies designed for multiplayer, except in scaling? Everything I’ve seen looks like standard Fromsoft stuff, no weird abilities that just fuck over solo players.
Big boss fights in particular (and some of those in particular, in particular, looking at you Maris and/or Gnoster) often have either a gigantic AoE attack that is very difficult to dodge when you’re the only source of aggro, or else charge across the entire arena after every attack and have you spend half an hour in the fight, 27 minutes of which was spent just chasing the guy across the map. Not impossible, but very annoying.
But 90% of what makes coop easier in my opinion is just having a spare body around that can pull aggro so you can heal. Elden Ring base bosses were designed around being able to be beaten solo so they usually have big wide windows where you can get a breather if you need it. Nightreign bosses have much less of that because they expect you to be running 3 deep. Nerfing their defenses helps with the solo DPS race but it doesn’t really solve the problem that these fights were designed from the ground up for a team who is able to rotate aggro. Nightreign bosses were designed with a sort of raid-boss mentality.
I think if this game were going to be appropriately balanced for single player they would need to go in and edit a lot of the main bosses’ movesets. But that was never part of Nightreign’s design philosophy and trying to shoehorn it in now isn’t doing them any favors in my opinion. This is the equivalent of a World of Warcraft player complaining that they can’t solo all the endgame raid bosses. Sure, you can’t. They weren’t designed to be fought solo. We could try to nerf them down to the point that you can fight them solo, but then it’s no longer a raid boss, you’ve lost the essence of why people wanted to come to this fight in the first place.
Also, are the enemies designed for multiplayer, except in scaling? Everything I’ve seen looks like standard Fromsoft stuff, no weird abilities that just fuck over solo players.
Compare base game Morgott and Nightreign Morgott and I think you’ll see what I mean here. Boss enemies are much more cracked out with longer combos and shorter downtime than in Elden Ring proper, because the developers expect you to be trading aggro with your teammates to give yourself a heal break.
You can play it single player, I played all the souls game single player, but more recently prefer doing bosses with others because I’m not a patient player and from software bosses require patience. Lots of it. Lol.
Correct, they do scale the boss HP when solo vs a normal trio game, you also get one guaranteed free revive and shops are guaranteed to sell a revive item. Personally, I’d still rather queue with randoms, but we’ll see how that goes when they add duo games. Queue times can already be a bit long sometimes, and I’m a bit concerned that losing duo teams to their own mode will make solo queues even longer and more annoying.
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It already supports single player.
It supports 1 or 3 players, which is why not supporting just 2 players was stupid and they are fixing it.
It already supports single player 🩷 Enemy health, poise, and runes are adjusted to balance the lack of teammates. You can also buy a few Wending Graces that will allow you to self-revive since you won’t have teammates to revive you. Some of the final day bosses can actually be easier to manage solo. I sooo recommend the game, and I also recommend giving multiplayer a chance when you’re comfortable with the overall loop and navigating the map. While I do occasionally get a mess of a team, I would say the majority of my matchmade runs have been super smooth and fun!
I was watching a friend who got it and he tried it solo initially before swapping to online play and it seemed waaaay harder. Not sure if he screwed up a setting and it was really the 3 player version or something.
You’ve only played with randos? You get by ok without voice chat?
None of my video game playing friends are fans of Souls-likes so I’ve been putting this one off.
Both with friends and with random players. The map pinging system honestly works so well for the pace of the game! The goal to be as efficient and quick as possible generally doesn’t leave much room for arguing or debates which makes things feel so not toxic. Someone usually just takes control of routing, puts a pin down, you or the other player can place a pin in the same location to second the vote, or you can place a pin where you think is best and the other players can second it or not. When I’m playing with friends they leave the routing up to me, but when we’re playing with a matchmade player it’s 50/50 if they’ll be routing or I will. Sometimes it’s chaos, but it’s usually super smooth!
Have they changed the game a lot since launch? When I was watching the reviews of it, everyone made it seem like you have to have a cohesive party all working together and using their skills properly and the game is impossible solo.
They did rebalance solo play to make it easier but it will always be more difficult because bosses were made with co-op in mind.
From what I saw, solo is a lot easier than coop (streams of the game, not played it myself yet). Enemies have basically no HP, and you can predict what they do, just like in a normal Souls game. Also, you’re not getting matched with randoms.
If you’re playing with friends, sit in voice chat, that might get easier for you again.
I’ve played quite a lot of Nightreign.
In co-op you have fully infinite lives, your teammates can pick you up at any time and even if they fail to do so you’ll respawn back at a grace. If you fall over in a boss fight you have an unlimited timer to be picked back up and automatically rez at the end of the fight even if they don’t do it.
In solo you’re fighting a boss intended for 3 players and if you die twice the game is over completely.
Co-op, even with randoms, is much much easier by an order of magnitude. I’m usually a solo player in most games and thought this would be awful for me, it isn’t at all. Map pings are plenty of communication for most matches. It is, however, definitely better with friends on a voice call.
Ok, but what if…you just kill bosses in five hits, because they don’t have any HP?
It’s an overexaggeration of course, but the enemies definitely have a lot less HP than in coop, not even just 1/3 or whatever (seemingly).
Also, are the enemies designed for multiplayer, except in scaling? Everything I’ve seen looks like standard Fromsoft stuff, no weird abilities that just fuck over solo players.
Regular enemies fall over like wet tissue, yeah.
Big boss fights in particular (and some of those in particular, in particular, looking at you Maris and/or Gnoster) often have either a gigantic AoE attack that is very difficult to dodge when you’re the only source of aggro, or else charge across the entire arena after every attack and have you spend half an hour in the fight, 27 minutes of which was spent just chasing the guy across the map. Not impossible, but very annoying.
But 90% of what makes coop easier in my opinion is just having a spare body around that can pull aggro so you can heal. Elden Ring base bosses were designed around being able to be beaten solo so they usually have big wide windows where you can get a breather if you need it. Nightreign bosses have much less of that because they expect you to be running 3 deep. Nerfing their defenses helps with the solo DPS race but it doesn’t really solve the problem that these fights were designed from the ground up for a team who is able to rotate aggro. Nightreign bosses were designed with a sort of raid-boss mentality.
I think if this game were going to be appropriately balanced for single player they would need to go in and edit a lot of the main bosses’ movesets. But that was never part of Nightreign’s design philosophy and trying to shoehorn it in now isn’t doing them any favors in my opinion. This is the equivalent of a World of Warcraft player complaining that they can’t solo all the endgame raid bosses. Sure, you can’t. They weren’t designed to be fought solo. We could try to nerf them down to the point that you can fight them solo, but then it’s no longer a raid boss, you’ve lost the essence of why people wanted to come to this fight in the first place.
Compare base game Morgott and Nightreign Morgott and I think you’ll see what I mean here. Boss enemies are much more cracked out with longer combos and shorter downtime than in Elden Ring proper, because the developers expect you to be trading aggro with your teammates to give yourself a heal break.
You can play it single player, I played all the souls game single player, but more recently prefer doing bosses with others because I’m not a patient player and from software bosses require patience. Lots of it. Lol.
It has always had single player
you just get NPC team mates instead of human players.It’s not even always online.I don’t think there’s npc players. You switch to solo mode and go alone.
Correct, they do scale the boss HP when solo vs a normal trio game, you also get one guaranteed free revive and shops are guaranteed to sell a revive item. Personally, I’d still rather queue with randoms, but we’ll see how that goes when they add duo games. Queue times can already be a bit long sometimes, and I’m a bit concerned that losing duo teams to their own mode will make solo queues even longer and more annoying.
Wow really? They said it would in one of the longer trailers for the game.