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Cool
Until the 30th, then we’ll see who actually leaves
I haven’t been back since the blackout, but I’m waiting until July 1st to delete my post and comment history.
This is an important point, the death of 3rd party apps should in theory make at least a dent in user numbers on reddit.
This doesn’t surprise me. Most people don’t have the time or desire to keep up with tech news, and they just want to feed their addiction. It’ll be interesting to see what happens 1~2 weeks after the new API rules are active, and people realize the app they use no longer works.
I never created a Reddit account, and only visited under duress, so I’m not really affected by this. So I’m just cooking up popcorn & watching the show.
My first reaction was one of questioning the statistics.
Then I realized that the way they were generating their stats wouldn’t have counted me for the most part.
Then I realized that I wasn’t really all that unique; most power users wouldn’t have shown up in those stats.
At that point, the stats made more sense.
Can you elaborate on how they get those metrics?
It explains in the article. Found the redditor xD.
But yeah looks like daily unique visitors and average visit time, which was around 8 minutes apparently. (rookie numbers psh)
I’m not really surprised, I’d actually assume that sexy John Oliver and the other protests created a lot of additional traffic. People post like crazy and a lot of people want to see that, especially since it got some coverage on news sites. Add to that the big majority of people who do not care (remember that 80% of traffic was still reached) plus some who may have been sympathetic enough to join the two day protest but don’t care enough to continue to stay away. It’s really not surprising that we’re back to normal numbers.
Thankfully this isn’t the only impact people currently still make, so this isn’t over. The real question now will be how else it might change Reddit.
Protesting Reddit by posting entertaining content to Reddit makes as much sense as protesting Bud Lite by buying lots of it to destroy in a high-profile stunt.
I think it’s a little different, but not by much. Yes, it still contributes content and drives users to the site but it’s not content they’re looking for and it’s inevitably going to die down and that’s the part I’m looking forward to.
I don’t really get how people think Reddit
is winning. Sure traffic is back to normal or even higher, but that really doesn’t matter. They want to go public and for that to work they have to be lucrative for advertisers.
No one in their right mind wants to advertise like normal on current Reddit. Sure they still have users but now you advertisements are not targeted and you basically advertise on a shitpost site.
From a money perspective this is a huge problem for Reddit because for a investor in the current market situation that is not rly something you want to invest in. Remember it is a forum that hasn’t made a profit in nearly 20 years and a relevant percentage (active posters) of the userbase is trolling right now.
It currently looks like a lose lose situation (Reddit and the users don‘t get what they want).
maybe i’ll use the web version for some time, not gonna use their app for sure
Firefox mobile + ublock origin is a powerful combo
They’ve been more annoying about “convincing”
forcingyou to use their shitty app though.I don’t think most people understand the protests. I had to explain it to two people who use the platform.
I haven’t been on Reddit much since the protests started, and won’t be on it once Sync for Reddit stops working.
Yea, same. The protests were enough to get me to delete my main account and spend no more than 5 minutes a day on Reddit, whereas before this I probably spend 2-3 hours a day on it. Nowadays channeling all my energy into Lemmy. Really liking the content and friendly atmosphere over here!
Tumblr is still alive, but it’s a shell of what it used to be. Given the behavior of Spez, it’s only a matter of time before Reddit ends up the same.
Imagine the kinds of fuckery that will happen when Reddit has shareholders.
Tumblr has at least managed to carve out an interesting little niche for itself at this point.
There’s been discussions about Tumblr getting on ActivityPub which would be interesting.
Activitypud? Does that mean they can connect to us? Or something
Exactly that, like kbin, lemmy, mastodon, pixelfed, peertube, etc.
I wonder if editing/deleting comments counts as “traffic”.
I imagine it does. You’re still signing in and interacting with the platform, so it still likely counts.
I feel like “traffic” is also easy to fake. People can drum up an army of new bots and suddenly the “traffic” is back, even if actual people aren’t.
I’ve only entered reddit this week when i was looking something up on search engines, but its hard to go around the content they’ve build up over the past 15 or so years. And i mostly did this on desktop where i can block all those filthy ads.
For my day to day, i’ve completely migrated to lemmy. I’ve enjoyed seeing it grow these past few days and I hope it continues to do so.
Same, just today I had a problem in a niche hobby and I couldn’t find a solution. The only answer I found was an old post on Reddit with three comments. Sometimes there just isn’t a good alternative.
I am not sure I believe that, it might be that bots can be active again now that the subreddits are reopened, but I know that I am not back. And I won’t be back, and I think a lot of people are staying away as well. That the traffic is now normal seems a bit sketchy.
I’m afraid that’s just bubble bias. Most people just don’t care or haven’t found a viable alternative yet. These +43k active users on Lemmy are huge for Lemmy, but not even a scratch for the other site.
After the initial exodus at the start of this month, you could see more and more comments demanding returning to business as usual.
[I’m afraid that’s just bubble bias.] Huh, hadn’t heard of that one before. But yeah 43.000 is not a lot next to 52.000.000. I am still staying here tho
It’s interesting to see how the traffic is after 1st of July. I hate to speculate but I wouldn’t be surprised when an article will comes out, stating traffic has not changed after 1st of July.
NGL, I’m only there for the porn now
Yeah, didn’t find any equivalent on lemmy so far…
There are NSFW instances, saw them in the join Lemmy list.
If Reddit experience a drop a 5% of its user base I doubt they would immediately notice. And even if they did sites like this (pcmag) would not consider that a major drop and so wouldn’t even report it as such.
But we all know that 5% of the users produce 90% to the content.
The amount of content I’m seeing over here these days lets me know that despite whatever the numbers tell you reddit lost sizeable amounts of community members and content producers. What these statistics hide is the massive dent in reddits free labor pool of mods that are likely done with the platform.
A ton of current content is produced by spam bots. As I understand it, the new changes will also affect these bots, so curious to see what will happen.
Somehow I doubt the actual spambots have applied for a developer API key. They’ll be fine.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they had, actually.
Still, a spam bot can just use the free license - they won’t make nearly as much api requests as a proper app would.
The ones that make 60 posts per account per hour are easy to detect no matter how they post.
Lemmy has beyond exceeded my expectations of quantity and quality of content. I will pass by reddit occasionally but its become clear that the Fediverse concept can actually work. It has issues that need to be solved, but the minds behind it are very smart and motivated to find a way to make it keep working. The rate of PR’s getting merged into lemmy 0.18 are wild.
Yea, same. Really liking the content and friendly atmosphere over here. Looking increasingly viable as a replacement, especially if you believe in quality over quantity.
Yeah I’d much rather be here watching it grow than on Reddit watching it die
Very good way to put.
don’t piss of open-source developers
Sure, the party won’t stop, but the fun people already left, they are here!
We made our own reddit, with blackjack and hookers!
So… Just so I know to not sub to them, which communities are the blackjack and hookers in? Asking for a friend.
You can check instance at the bottom of a page like https://lemmy.ml/instances to see what you can’t federate with.
I’d recommend a separate account for NSFW stuff anyways…
I deleted everything and I’ve not been on for weeks now. Good riddance!
Check that they didn’t un-delete your comment. It happends to me and I had to delete everything again 🤬
I’ve manually edited a bunch of my comments. I haven’t deleted them yet. I hope it’s more permanent.