It is my firm belief that Bethesda’s games shouldn’t be tried in less than 3-4 months after their release, due to problems, unpatched bugs and the lack of mods that address some weird design choices. I can wait for that long, especially since I’m so tired these days that I forget what’s my name sometimes… 😉
So, I’m excited for this game, but after being burned one too many times on preorders, I’ve made it a personal policy to refuse to engage any sort of preorder.
Who is buying this on Steam? It’s priced higher than BG3…
It’s defo a game for a month of game pass and then can purchase at a sale later if it’s worth it.
If you’re willing to give up your option to refund in a 2hr gameplay window, you can get a Steam key from reputable (not greymarket) sellers for a decent discount. Here’s an example
I’d rather pay than use Microsoft’s janky store. I have used gamepass a few times in the past, but I hated that I needed to mess with command line and restart my computer several times to get downloads to start and games to launch.
Game pass was unusable buggy on my pc too. Might have to do with all of the Xbox telemetry being disabled with extreme prejudice. I bought Forza Horizon 5 from the windows store and can’t get it to install at all. Works perfectly fine when I rebought it on sale on steam.
Linux can’t use gamepass, but I’m not sure starfield is going to be too playable on Linux anyways.
I didn’t disable anything on my PC. My roommate had the same problem and he’s pretty tech illiterate, so I’m sure he didn’t disable anything either.
Why wouldn’t you think Starfield would be playable on Linux? The list of incompatible games has grown very small. I cant imagine they would have kernel anticheat on a single player game from a company that had traditionally embraced mods. That seems to go against Bethesda’s whole attitude. And nowadays kernel anti cheat is pretty much the only thing stopping people from playing any game on Linux.
Game pass/Microsoft store are just buggy I think. Don’t work well even under good conditions.
Im more thinking that new games tend to struggle on Linux. I’ll be happy to admit I’m wrong if it releases with strong Linux support, but I wouldn’t expect it either.
Really? I feel like it’s the opposite. Newer games tend to have been made with Steam Deck in mind. BG3 for example is listed as gold on ProtonDB. Can you give an example of a newer game that ran decently on Windows but struggled on Linux?
Apex Legends, Destiny 2, any CoD or really anything competitive. Far Cry, Forza, anything VR.
I don’t play enough single player games anymore to really have a specific example on hand, but every time I’ve tried to get gaming working on Linux I give up after 3-4 hours of tinkering on a AAA game.
Linux support is better, but it’s not perfect, and there’s often trade offs made to be able to play on Linux.
Destiny 2 and COD have kernel anticheat which is what I was referring to. I doubt Starfield will have that, as it would go against everything Bethesda has stood for in the past with modding. Apex Legends is listed as Gold in proton DB, it looks like it runs fine. Forza Horizon 5 is silver in protonDB, it looks like it is playable with a little bit of tweaking. Far Cry 6 is Gold in protonDB, it looks like it runs fine.
Plus, Apex Legends and Destiny 2 aren’t new. I was referring to games that came out in the last two years, after the Steam Deck came out. Destiny 2 came out 6 years ago.
At this point, unless there’s kernel anticheat pretty much everything is playable. So that’s going to rule out many competitive games, which you specifically called out, but since the game in question is a single player game, I think it will be fine.
Agreed. One day I realized my computer was completely out of space, was barely still running. Turns out Microsoft store had dutifully downloaded many copies of a game until the entire drive was full. Uninstalling got rid of only one copy of the files. Store said it was no longer installed even though all the files of many copies were still there. Deleting them manually was a horrible mess of permissions issues, involving the need to edit the registry and things too. I think I ended up needing to boot into Linux from a usb stick to finally fix everything up. Anyways, steam for me if I have the choice. Let me just delete files if I need to Microsoft, geeze.
Going gold this early seems like a good sign about the state of the game. I’m very excited about this game, but I’m definitely waiting for reviews before I decide if I want to buy it right away or wait.
I really wouldn’t put much stock into it. Seems like a new buzzword everyone’s trying to use. Seems like they’re borrowing a term from gold images in the OS world.
Really it just means that they have a version that runs and they’re going to push that out now, well they work on the first patch now. It being gold does not exclude it from a necessary day one patch.
It’s not a new term. Going gold for a game is a term that I have heard since at least the early 2000s. I doubt it was new then, just probably when I first heard it.
It used to mean it’s the version that is going to be burned to the discs that you buy, which was a huge deal before downloadable updates. But I’m sure now it means it is the version they are uploading to Steam, PS store, Xbox store, etc.
My point was that they could have waited until two days before release, and if they were still fixing issues, they would have. The rule of thumb is the earlier something goes gold, the more stable the game is. It’s not perfect, but it is a trend.
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YES.
Can’t wait to play this game, even if it means mere 20 minutes before going to sleep…
I can’t tell if you’re a kid with a bedtime or you’re very conscious of your sleep schedule.
I’m a dad of a young lady.
Ha, gotta love regaining a bedtime to set a good example!
I hope that Starfield is going to be so good, I will be happy to sacrifice a few minutes of rest to play it. 😬
You can probably change your region to New Zealand on your Xbox and play early. I’ve done it successfully for other releases.
Thank you.
It is my firm belief that Bethesda’s games shouldn’t be tried in less than 3-4 months after their release, due to problems, unpatched bugs and the lack of mods that address some weird design choices. I can wait for that long, especially since I’m so tired these days that I forget what’s my name sometimes… 😉
Heck, not only Bethesda games. I do that for all games basically
I might take the day off to play it, I took the day off for Distant Worlds 2 and had a blast. Self-care day. ;)
You’re good people, man.
So, I’m excited for this game, but after being burned one too many times on preorders, I’ve made it a personal policy to refuse to engage any sort of preorder.
Hallelujah!
If a few million more of us do this maybe the industry will improve…
Do we know when the review embargo will be lifted?
According to this article, they sent out the codes today and the embargo may lift on September 1st.
Who is buying this on Steam? It’s priced higher than BG3…
It’s defo a game for a month of game pass and then can purchase at a sale later if it’s worth it.
If you’re willing to give up your option to refund in a 2hr gameplay window, you can get a Steam key from reputable (not greymarket) sellers for a decent discount. Here’s an example
GMG would be a better option, but game pass for a month is still the way here imo.
I’d rather pay than use Microsoft’s janky store. I have used gamepass a few times in the past, but I hated that I needed to mess with command line and restart my computer several times to get downloads to start and games to launch.
Also, are Linux folks able to use gamepass?
Game pass was unusable buggy on my pc too. Might have to do with all of the Xbox telemetry being disabled with extreme prejudice. I bought Forza Horizon 5 from the windows store and can’t get it to install at all. Works perfectly fine when I rebought it on sale on steam.
Linux can’t use gamepass, but I’m not sure starfield is going to be too playable on Linux anyways.
I didn’t disable anything on my PC. My roommate had the same problem and he’s pretty tech illiterate, so I’m sure he didn’t disable anything either.
Why wouldn’t you think Starfield would be playable on Linux? The list of incompatible games has grown very small. I cant imagine they would have kernel anticheat on a single player game from a company that had traditionally embraced mods. That seems to go against Bethesda’s whole attitude. And nowadays kernel anti cheat is pretty much the only thing stopping people from playing any game on Linux.
Game pass/Microsoft store are just buggy I think. Don’t work well even under good conditions.
Im more thinking that new games tend to struggle on Linux. I’ll be happy to admit I’m wrong if it releases with strong Linux support, but I wouldn’t expect it either.
Really? I feel like it’s the opposite. Newer games tend to have been made with Steam Deck in mind. BG3 for example is listed as gold on ProtonDB. Can you give an example of a newer game that ran decently on Windows but struggled on Linux?
Apex Legends, Destiny 2, any CoD or really anything competitive. Far Cry, Forza, anything VR.
I don’t play enough single player games anymore to really have a specific example on hand, but every time I’ve tried to get gaming working on Linux I give up after 3-4 hours of tinkering on a AAA game.
Linux support is better, but it’s not perfect, and there’s often trade offs made to be able to play on Linux.
Destiny 2 and COD have kernel anticheat which is what I was referring to. I doubt Starfield will have that, as it would go against everything Bethesda has stood for in the past with modding. Apex Legends is listed as Gold in proton DB, it looks like it runs fine. Forza Horizon 5 is silver in protonDB, it looks like it is playable with a little bit of tweaking. Far Cry 6 is Gold in protonDB, it looks like it runs fine.
Plus, Apex Legends and Destiny 2 aren’t new. I was referring to games that came out in the last two years, after the Steam Deck came out. Destiny 2 came out 6 years ago.
At this point, unless there’s kernel anticheat pretty much everything is playable. So that’s going to rule out many competitive games, which you specifically called out, but since the game in question is a single player game, I think it will be fine.
Agreed. One day I realized my computer was completely out of space, was barely still running. Turns out Microsoft store had dutifully downloaded many copies of a game until the entire drive was full. Uninstalling got rid of only one copy of the files. Store said it was no longer installed even though all the files of many copies were still there. Deleting them manually was a horrible mess of permissions issues, involving the need to edit the registry and things too. I think I ended up needing to boot into Linux from a usb stick to finally fix everything up. Anyways, steam for me if I have the choice. Let me just delete files if I need to Microsoft, geeze.
Going gold this early seems like a good sign about the state of the game. I’m very excited about this game, but I’m definitely waiting for reviews before I decide if I want to buy it right away or wait.
I really wouldn’t put much stock into it. Seems like a new buzzword everyone’s trying to use. Seems like they’re borrowing a term from gold images in the OS world.
Really it just means that they have a version that runs and they’re going to push that out now, well they work on the first patch now. It being gold does not exclude it from a necessary day one patch.
It’s not a new term. Going gold for a game is a term that I have heard since at least the early 2000s. I doubt it was new then, just probably when I first heard it.
It used to mean it’s the version that is going to be burned to the discs that you buy, which was a huge deal before downloadable updates. But I’m sure now it means it is the version they are uploading to Steam, PS store, Xbox store, etc.
My point was that they could have waited until two days before release, and if they were still fixing issues, they would have. The rule of thumb is the earlier something goes gold, the more stable the game is. It’s not perfect, but it is a trend.