“Bethesda game in spaaaaaceee” is more than that, you know it, and it was proven when one of the first costume mods on Nexus was the space suit with a force field boob window tyvm.
For sure, ill feed your curiosity. Starfield is expanding to the stars, massive choices on where the story goes based on your responses, the capabilities to befriend or antagonize any enemy whether a human, alien, or these strange pirates. You deal with politics, survival, and attempting to save the galaxy while trying to discover the hidden story. If you call that generic, I feel sorry for you.
“characteristic of or relating to a class or group of things; not specific.”
Ship building alone is very specific, there are very little games that let you truly customize the entirety of the layout on your ship. On top of that, the crazy about of realism that goes into that is insane. Everything can affect something else in that. I’m also a huge fan of the procedural planets, like dozens of them, which what super disappointed me was walking for what felt like daaayyyss across a map.
So again, the concept was great, the execution was not.
Well, I’m celebrating mother’s day today, so I wasn’t going to even have my phone out, but since I am pooping let’s talk ‘mechanics’ LMAO.
So you’re pretending now that mechanics aren’t part of a game’s identity? That’s adorable.
Listen, kiddo, game concepts aren’t just the napkin pitch like ‘space adventure with guns.’
That’s like saying a restaurant concept is just ‘we serve food.’ 💀😂
The execution of those ideas, how deep the systems go, how player agency is handled, the SCOPE of what you can do, is the process of a concept.
Mechanics are the embodiment of concept. Otherwise, every shooter is just ‘point and click,’ and every RPG is just ‘talk and fight.’ You have to look at the HOW, not just the what.
Cheers mate, glad you have a perspective on it. Take care!
massive choices on where the story goes based on your responses,
Really? What massive choices do you make? Hunter or emissary? That just changes the last 20 minutes of the game. Before then, you have no major impact on the plot.
the capabilities to befriend or antagonize any enemy whether a human, alien, or these strange pirates
But you don’t. You can’t befriend the pirates, there arent really any strange aliens, and you can’t antagonize most friends.
You deal with politics, survival,
Do you? There’s some minor “deal with this for me” stuff from the factions, but that’s hardly politics.
And survival isn’t an issue in the game at all, even though you can see the scrapped leftovers from it.
attempting to save the galaxy while trying to discover the hidden story.
The “hidden story” is spelled out and telegraphed in the main questline. It’s not a souls like where you piece it together, they literally tell you to your face
Listen mate, agree to disagree. You are getting into all the points as to why it crushed my hopes, as I have said. Each of those aspects was a great concept, as I have overstated, but the concept fell short, my hopes carried the game farther in my mind than the game could go.
Each topic I pointed out was an area of the game that I felt they could have driven more, but they failed to execute. Then it seemed like there was a glimmer of hope as they were pushing for some major fixes like finally adding a vehicle to travel faster on planets, but again, they fell short and here we are going back and forth like school kiddos arguing about if its the coolest game or not.
Its far from it mate, I agree with all of you but you’re all trying to nitpick each aspect rather than reading my very very first post where I said its a great concept, but it crushed my hopes.
Calling something great is an individual perspective. This is all my perspective, this will be my last response in regards to this topic. Do you have a favorite game that you think is a great concept and great execution? Personally, I don’t, unl3ss we go back to gameboy days.
Yeah you can. That’s literally one of the only major choices you can make; destroy them or join them after going undercover and infiltrating their base.
Your reading comprehension seems to be overlooking the part where I started with ‘i had high hopes for this game.’ The game is far from generic, there isnt one person in this thread that could draft a better story or even come close to a released game.
Wanna talk generic? Every starwars game, like ever. Every call of duty game, like ever.
Yall are funny. Thanks for reminding me to jump back onto Starfield!
Also this is just an utterly ridiculous way to respond to criticism of a product, no shit an average joe can’t make a multi million dollar triple A game, but that doesn’t mean he can’t dislike it
The opposite can be true as well, a game can flop on your expectations but you can still like it. Youre all just fighting tooth and nail to make ‘generic’ mean something it doesnt.
My man, or woman, sorry if I am wrong on pronouns, feel free to correct me.
I genuinely went to your profile out of a ‘who tf is this mf’, and seeing your most recent post, I genuinely hope you arent struggling with anxiety or depression too bad. Those are mean, ugly things that can weigh you down.
I hope life is treating you well, and on the note of posts, the bread you made looks fucking great. Thats like some genuine top bakery looking bread. I would buy the hell out of that if I saw some that good looking.
We can disagree and fight or troll about the game as much as we want, but I dont want to do or say anything that would genuinely make you feel negatively.
So on that note, fook you, starfield great, me right, you wrong.
LMAO the go to when you are losing ‘are you alright?’
You seem like a basement dweller who freaks out at any disagreement. You are all arguing the word generic without using its definition, while simultaneously overlooking how my hopes were crushed by this game.
Sounds like an AI generated blurb and very far from reality, especially as you have almost no choice in anything, exactly zero of them feel meaningful in any way, can’t “antagonize anyone” (yay for essential npcs 😒), aren’t saving the galaxy and the “hidden story” is one of the worst “ITS THE MULTIVERSE LOL” stories I’ve seen.
I don’t have a problem with people who like and enjoy the game, I just don’t understand your reason to say the game is something that it actually is not
The game, in my perspective, is exactly what I said it is. You don’t have to understand it brother, just like I don’t understand yours. I do appreciate your perspective though, you’re free to have it.
For sure, ill feed your curiosity. Starfield is expanding to the stars, massive choices on where the story goes based on your responses, the capabilities to befriend or antagonize any enemy whether a human, alien, or these strange pirates. You deal with politics, survival, and attempting to save the galaxy while trying to discover the hidden story. If you call that generic, I feel sorry for you.
Yeah except you didnt say ship building. You didnt say anything about game mechanics here, this is all marketing jargon that can be interpreted in different ways. Maybe go with mechanics if you’re trying to paint uniqueness instead of regurgitating the back of the pamphlet.
How about we stay within the contexts of our reply chains. You are extremely hurt in the butt about all of this so I can only assume you’re taking each criticism of this game as a personal attack. You should chill.
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The concept is literally “generic sci-fi RPG.”
“Bethesda game in spaaaaaceee” is more than that, you know it, and it was proven when one of the first costume mods on Nexus was the space suit with a force field boob window tyvm.
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What would you say the concept is?
A just curious
For sure, ill feed your curiosity. Starfield is expanding to the stars, massive choices on where the story goes based on your responses, the capabilities to befriend or antagonize any enemy whether a human, alien, or these strange pirates. You deal with politics, survival, and attempting to save the galaxy while trying to discover the hidden story. If you call that generic, I feel sorry for you.
If you don’t call that generic, I have to wonder how you define the word “generic.”
By the literal definition.
“characteristic of or relating to a class or group of things; not specific.”
Ship building alone is very specific, there are very little games that let you truly customize the entirety of the layout on your ship. On top of that, the crazy about of realism that goes into that is insane. Everything can affect something else in that. I’m also a huge fan of the procedural planets, like dozens of them, which what super disappointed me was walking for what felt like daaayyyss across a map.
So again, the concept was great, the execution was not.
You’re describing mechanics not a concept.
Well, I’m celebrating mother’s day today, so I wasn’t going to even have my phone out, but since I am pooping let’s talk ‘mechanics’ LMAO.
So you’re pretending now that mechanics aren’t part of a game’s identity? That’s adorable.
Listen, kiddo, game concepts aren’t just the napkin pitch like ‘space adventure with guns.’
That’s like saying a restaurant concept is just ‘we serve food.’ 💀😂
The execution of those ideas, how deep the systems go, how player agency is handled, the SCOPE of what you can do, is the process of a concept.
Mechanics are the embodiment of concept. Otherwise, every shooter is just ‘point and click,’ and every RPG is just ‘talk and fight.’ You have to look at the HOW, not just the what.
Cheers mate, glad you have a perspective on it. Take care!
It’s hard to tell if you actually are making a coherent counter argument here since your response is 90% ad homenem.
Concepts are high level ideas. Mechanics are lower level implementations of those ideas.
But I think the original poster really meant “vision” or “motif” more than they meant “concept”.
A game with lots of deep mechanics but lacking overall vision is really just seen as a fancy tech demo by most people.
Really? What massive choices do you make? Hunter or emissary? That just changes the last 20 minutes of the game. Before then, you have no major impact on the plot.
But you don’t. You can’t befriend the pirates, there arent really any strange aliens, and you can’t antagonize most friends.
Do you? There’s some minor “deal with this for me” stuff from the factions, but that’s hardly politics.
And survival isn’t an issue in the game at all, even though you can see the scrapped leftovers from it.
The “hidden story” is spelled out and telegraphed in the main questline. It’s not a souls like where you piece it together, they literally tell you to your face
Listen mate, agree to disagree. You are getting into all the points as to why it crushed my hopes, as I have said. Each of those aspects was a great concept, as I have overstated, but the concept fell short, my hopes carried the game farther in my mind than the game could go.
Each topic I pointed out was an area of the game that I felt they could have driven more, but they failed to execute. Then it seemed like there was a glimmer of hope as they were pushing for some major fixes like finally adding a vehicle to travel faster on planets, but again, they fell short and here we are going back and forth like school kiddos arguing about if its the coolest game or not.
Its far from it mate, I agree with all of you but you’re all trying to nitpick each aspect rather than reading my very very first post where I said its a great concept, but it crushed my hopes.
Calling something great is an individual perspective. This is all my perspective, this will be my last response in regards to this topic. Do you have a favorite game that you think is a great concept and great execution? Personally, I don’t, unl3ss we go back to gameboy days.
Cheers mate, hope youre well.
Yeah you can. That’s literally one of the only major choices you can make; destroy them or join them after going undercover and infiltrating their base.
Yeah that sounds like a generic space rpg setting, you just described the genre. Nothing in that statement can be exclusively tied to starfield
Your reading comprehension seems to be overlooking the part where I started with ‘i had high hopes for this game.’ The game is far from generic, there isnt one person in this thread that could draft a better story or even come close to a released game.
Wanna talk generic? Every starwars game, like ever. Every call of duty game, like ever.
Yall are funny. Thanks for reminding me to jump back onto Starfield!
Also this is just an utterly ridiculous way to respond to criticism of a product, no shit an average joe can’t make a multi million dollar triple A game, but that doesn’t mean he can’t dislike it
The opposite can be true as well, a game can flop on your expectations but you can still like it. Youre all just fighting tooth and nail to make ‘generic’ mean something it doesnt.
My man, or woman, sorry if I am wrong on pronouns, feel free to correct me.
I genuinely went to your profile out of a ‘who tf is this mf’, and seeing your most recent post, I genuinely hope you arent struggling with anxiety or depression too bad. Those are mean, ugly things that can weigh you down.
I hope life is treating you well, and on the note of posts, the bread you made looks fucking great. Thats like some genuine top bakery looking bread. I would buy the hell out of that if I saw some that good looking.
We can disagree and fight or troll about the game as much as we want, but I dont want to do or say anything that would genuinely make you feel negatively.
So on that note, fook you, starfield great, me right, you wrong.
Cheers mate, for real for real, much love.
I can agree with that.
I was also mostly just prodding and poking cause you have a unique way of responding, definitely a lot of energy there I can see you’re passionate.
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LMAO the go to when you are losing ‘are you alright?’
You seem like a basement dweller who freaks out at any disagreement. You are all arguing the word generic without using its definition, while simultaneously overlooking how my hopes were crushed by this game.
You need mental help kid.
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Sounds like an AI generated blurb and very far from reality, especially as you have almost no choice in anything, exactly zero of them feel meaningful in any way, can’t “antagonize anyone” (yay for essential npcs 😒), aren’t saving the galaxy and the “hidden story” is one of the worst “ITS THE MULTIVERSE LOL” stories I’ve seen.
Can we just hug this out?
I like the game, some hate it, im disappointed in it, but I dont wanna keep fighting online about it. I’d rather hug it out.
I don’t have a problem with people who like and enjoy the game, I just don’t understand your reason to say the game is something that it actually is not
The game, in my perspective, is exactly what I said it is. You don’t have to understand it brother, just like I don’t understand yours. I do appreciate your perspective though, you’re free to have it.
You also just described KOTOR 1 & 2, Elite Dangerous, Eve Online, Endless Skies, and in a way Hellpoint. All Sci-Fi.
LOL kotor is all story line. What ship are you building there?
Elite? Thats a flight sim, not an RPG
Eve? Show me first person on there.
Endless skies? Do you mean endless sky? Or endless space? Genuinely unfamiliar with that. Guess its too generic.
Hellpoint? The level based game with their small maps?
Yeah except you didnt say ship building. You didnt say anything about game mechanics here, this is all marketing jargon that can be interpreted in different ways. Maybe go with mechanics if you’re trying to paint uniqueness instead of regurgitating the back of the pamphlet.
https://lemm.ee/comment/20340407
Try reading more than one selective post.
How about we stay within the contexts of our reply chains. You are extremely hurt in the butt about all of this so I can only assume you’re taking each criticism of this game as a personal attack. You should chill.