The emulator forks which are being taken down are as follows:
Despite this, the one fork that continues, and will continue without takedown is Ryubing - by Greemdev. This is created by an original member of the Ryujinx team. It’s safe, the code is beyond reproach (and violates zero laws or Nintendo code) and actually brings helpful updates.
Still…shitty news. And more indication that the Switch 2’s architecture will be damn similar to that of this current Switch. Them taking emulators down means the upcoming games have a solid chance of being emulatable on release. But…that’s my own (and others’) conjecture, so we’ll see when the time comes.
Technically, you’re allowed to make copies for personal use unless doing so requires bypassing DRM, encryption, or some other lockout mechanism.
Emulation is still not piracy and neither is making a personal backup, but if making that backup requires anything more than a standard disc drive or a cart reader then it is a DMCA violation.
So if I want to run some of my old games from before 2000, I need to run a Windows 98 or XP computer, because you think emulators should be illegal? I’m not going to install windows 98 on an actual computer, I emulate it so I can run the games I legally own.
Quote “you understand the only reason people get an emulator is to pirate roms?” is your statement. You’re referencing all emulators, hence my comment.
You honestly believe people download emulators to play games they own already? That means they have the console still… Sooooo… Oh no you’re right. People buy tears of the kingdom and then buy a $1200 PC to run it instead of a switch. My bad. You’re totally right. Emulation is in no way linked to liracy whatsoever. Even I haven’t pirated 3 million games from all systems. In fact I purchased ALL of my games super legally just so I could emulate them 🫠
I didn’t buy a $1200 PC to play TotK. I already had a $1200 PC and decided I wanted to use it to play the game I paid for (and dumped with my own console) with better performance.
Now, it does facilitate it because all you need is a ROM from any source.
However, saying emulators should be prosecuted for it would be the same as arguing that Steam’s Proton should be banned because you can launch pirated games through it.
The real perpetrators are those who distribute pirated content. But going against those would be much more difficult, so they target emulators instead.
lets say you have spend 10 years making a game. and you put it on steam for $10. but wait. you are making $0 dollars because everyone is just pirating it, and then demanding you make a second one.
The reality is that Nintendo removed your ability to buy those old games for $10, because they’d rather rent you those games forever on their subscription service. If they were on Steam for $10, I’d have bought those old ROMs.
Emulation =/= online piracy. You need to stop equating them. I emulate games I bought all the time. They were legally acquired ROMs and emulation is legal. I’m not doing anything wrong, legally/ethically/whatever metric you want to use.
Emulation is the legal act (in the US and many countries) of running games on a virtual instance of their respective consoles. Piracy is in no way required to participate in this activity. You can download emulators from the Apple App Store, that’s how legal it is.
I also find it laughable that you want to compare Nintendo to some scrappy artist spending a decade on their game. You need data to show the harm here.
I have no issue with emulating games. But I also have no issue of a company trying to stop their games from being emulated.
This was literally your starting argument and what I was objecting to. You have talked about piracy in all follow ups. How else am I supposed to read this? You are equating them. You use them interchangeably to defend Nintendo’s behavior.
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I have no issue with emulating games. But I also have no issue of a company trying to stop their games from being emulated.
Fuck Nintendo
You have no issue with a company trying to illegally prevent people doing something legal?
Is it only for emulation? Stopping emulation is the illegal part.
how is pirating games legal?
Emulation isn’t piracy and you’re allowed to back up physical games you own. That’s legally your right.
Technically, you’re allowed to make copies for personal use unless doing so requires bypassing DRM, encryption, or some other lockout mechanism.
Emulation is still not piracy and neither is making a personal backup, but if making that backup requires anything more than a standard disc drive or a cart reader then it is a DMCA violation.
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yep. why? do you understand the only reason people get an emulator is to pirate roms?
So if I want to run some of my old games from before 2000, I need to run a Windows 98 or XP computer, because you think emulators should be illegal? I’m not going to install windows 98 on an actual computer, I emulate it so I can run the games I legally own.
That’s vastly different. No one is buying a Nintendo game and then downloading ryujinx to play it since you don’t download Nintendo games on your PC.
Quote “you understand the only reason people get an emulator is to pirate roms?” is your statement. You’re referencing all emulators, hence my comment.
To play games they own on other systems? To make official rereleases of old games, which now happens pretty often?
You honestly believe people download emulators to play games they own already? That means they have the console still… Sooooo… Oh no you’re right. People buy tears of the kingdom and then buy a $1200 PC to run it instead of a switch. My bad. You’re totally right. Emulation is in no way linked to liracy whatsoever. Even I haven’t pirated 3 million games from all systems. In fact I purchased ALL of my games super legally just so I could emulate them 🫠
I didn’t buy a $1200 PC to play TotK. I already had a $1200 PC and decided I wanted to use it to play the game I paid for (and dumped with my own console) with better performance.
Lmao I’m sure you “dumped” it mmmmhm hahahah
You are wrong. PS4 Emulator is used by most of the Legal Bloodborne Gamer who own game and PS4. To get 60 FPS patches.
Oh cool one example. Nice.
If that’s the limit of your knowledge, I can’t help you. Read more on the subject maybe.
Emulation itself doesn’t constitute piracy.
Now, it does facilitate it because all you need is a ROM from any source.
However, saying emulators should be prosecuted for it would be the same as arguing that Steam’s Proton should be banned because you can launch pirated games through it.
The real perpetrators are those who distribute pirated content. But going against those would be much more difficult, so they target emulators instead.
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Why?
Genuinely asking. Why do you think companies should do this?
lets say you have spend 10 years making a game. and you put it on steam for $10. but wait. you are making $0 dollars because everyone is just pirating it, and then demanding you make a second one.
Show me how this is happening to Nintendo.
The reality is that Nintendo removed your ability to buy those old games for $10, because they’d rather rent you those games forever on their subscription service. If they were on Steam for $10, I’d have bought those old ROMs.
Didn’t tears of the kingdom got pirated in like 1 week within release? That must have affected sales in some degree
Emulation =/= online piracy. You need to stop equating them. I emulate games I bought all the time. They were legally acquired ROMs and emulation is legal. I’m not doing anything wrong, legally/ethically/whatever metric you want to use.
Emulation is the legal act (in the US and many countries) of running games on a virtual instance of their respective consoles. Piracy is in no way required to participate in this activity. You can download emulators from the Apple App Store, that’s how legal it is.
I also find it laughable that you want to compare Nintendo to some scrappy artist spending a decade on their game. You need data to show the harm here.
Did I say that? I did not. I said the game was pirated in 1 week which it definitely happened unless everyone who emulated it was using it legally.
This was literally your starting argument and what I was objecting to. You have talked about piracy in all follow ups. How else am I supposed to read this? You are equating them. You use them interchangeably to defend Nintendo’s behavior.
I’m not that person you’re referring to tho
Nobody is talking about piracy.
Right… Because not one person ever uses emulators for privacy… Because it isn’t, You know, obviously used for that.
Steam is not a console? What are you on? If someone is broke he never gonna buy it. After all. I think Piracy make game more popular instead.
Oh sorry I thought OP was talking about Nintendo.
You literallly said “put it on steam”.
If you’re going to sit on a fence, what’s the point in doing it on a public forum? What does that do?