Nothing more disappointing to me than seeing a game I might enjoy… and then it’s only available on PC on Epic Games store. Why can’t it be available on Epic, Xbox game store and Steam? It’s so annoying, like you have no choice but to use Epic… which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

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Steam, Epic, GOG, it’s all the same to me. I’m not gonna fanboy over one platform and miss out on a game. That’s just ridiculous.

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I’m sorry but Epic is owned by Tencent. This means at any point in time, China’s Government can enforce trojans to be installed into your PC. Maybe not as relevant for you if you are not in a position of interest.

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/29/751116338/china-intercepts-wechat-texts-from-u-s-and-abroad-researcher-says

It is known PC Launcher exclusives actually hurts the company and the game’s popularity.

https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-exclusives-apple-lawsuit/

While Steam is certainly not the good guy, they are not owned by a known Government organisation.

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China can’t force Trojans to be installed on your PC. The fact that you believe that nonsense tells me you’re a fucking idiot.

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Mate, if you are dim enough to think an update can’t contain malicious code I have a heap of bridges to sell you.

Given you probably don’t understand software security but it’s fairly common attack vector.

https://www.hackerone.com/knowledge-center/supply-chain-attacks-impact-examples-and-6-preventive-measures

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I know an update can contain malicious code, I’m saying you’re an idiot for thinking Todd Sweeney is going to go to prison so that China can steal data from a bunch of fat sweaty dudes.

Your comment is even more fucking idiotic when you consider Microsoft works with the NSA, and Recall will archive everything you do on your Windows PC for them to peruse at will without a warrant.

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Tbh any stake is too much and I’ll try to reduce it if possible (e.g. pihole for tracking urls).
Rather I would prefer to own stake in tencent :p At least I get paid dividends.

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I posted a link in my original comment about using WeChat to spy…

Tencent owns 40% of Epic. That is very likely a controlling share which means being able to decide who is on the board and influence their decision making.

https://www.thestockdork.com/who-owns-epic-games/

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Tencent could own 100% of Epic, that doesn’t mean Epic is going to install malware on your PC for the Chinese government. That’s some top tier tinfoil bullshit. Nobody who lives in the US, which is where all the Epic employees and corporate overlords live, is going to risk going to prison for decades for espionage because their boss in China wants to steal data from gamers in the West.

You’re out of your fucking mind.

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Say that to WeChat.

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Is WeChat used in the US? Why the fuck are you using a Chinese app as your example, you could have done better than that, you twatwaffle.

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I think don’t it’s as much fanboyism over steam and more unfanboyism over epic games

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Still stupid as fuck, considering you don’t even need to use the Epic launcher for Epic games.

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That’s literally the point of their Launcher… DRM.

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You mean exactly like Steam?

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No, that’s good DRM. You shouldn’t criticize the benevolent GabeN, may his corporate monopoly last forever.

Praise be!

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And mods, friends, groups, community groups, server management and link to external games…

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Steam offers more than just DRM…

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What’s your point? Why would that matter if I’m not using their launcher when I play games from the Epic store? Just don’t use the Epic launcher. It’s not rocket science.

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I have a ton of games from Epic, haven’t used their launcher ever.

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Steam does provide good general dev services
GOG preserves games and let’s you own game files without pesky DRM
What does Epic do besides developing UE5 and harrassing the PC platform with exclusivity deals?

Other dev-specific platforms like EA amd Uplay get a pass because they publish only their own games.

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It’s not harassing me. I’ve bought Epic exclusives, and I’ll continue to do so if it’s a game I want to play. I always buy GOG first, Epic second (for exclusives), and Steam last, for anything else. This isn’t a problem for me.

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Well this may be a just-you-and-someothers problem the general audience (on lemmy at least) disagrees.
I am fine if devs sell on epic but not if it’s arbitrary exclusivity.
I have bought on EA and uPlay but I would never consider them again if they pay (for example) Take2 if they would exclusive sell GTA6 on the EA store.

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This is it right here. Do not fanboy platform. Competition is very very important in this kind of market. But epic games is just the worst of all worlds.

Release on GOG, I’ll buy it. If not, release on steam. Otherwise 🏴‍☠️

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Tbh at least UE is doing incredible work

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Absolutely true.

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