Astronomer & video game data scientist with repressed anger
Depends on how one defines “win”.
We coulda gotten more people here. Reddit’s kind of the perfect centralized service to decentralize. Major subreddits have millions of subscribers and mods with years of experience managing large communities. Many of them could have set up their own Lemmy servers and just said “we’re over here now”. You get a few large, but still not exactly mainstream r/all kind of subreddits doing that, and things could’ve been significantly different.
At the same time, there are several ordres of magnitude more people here now than there was before, and the space isn’t showing any signs of dying. That’s kind of a big L for Reddit, as they’re going to continue enshitifying themselves in the months and years ahead, and there’s a legit, if somewhat underground, alternative space for people to go when they’re finally fed up. Now with an insane amount of mobile app support, to boot.
They lost plenty of people, at least for now.
What none of these articles seem to want to highlight is that this is completely normal retention behaviour. 50% week 1 retention isn’t excellent by any stretch of the imagination, but it’s well, well within the span of what’s normal.
And Threads is still half baked.
Yes, this.
It’ll be just like YouTube, where people are huddled on the floor praying to “the algorithm” with each bit of “content” they post, hoping to make it big as a “professional Redditor”.
I can’t wait to see the per-user algorithmic feeds. One post from r/conspiracy or r/conservative scrolls past your screen, and suddenly it’s all you see.
I mean, when some of those sites they defederated from are going around proudly announcing they’d rather ban people asking that they defederate from the Nazi instance than the Nazi instance itself, it really drives home how much it was the right decision. We absolutely, under no circumstances, should let this space become just another Nazi bar.
If the company is already not profitable, losing some of the most active users can have a big effect. Every tick further away from profitability is huge, and a decline in content quality can absolutely produce such a downward tick.
Especially if that premium content doesn’t so much go away as move somewhere else.
Most people who have left don’t use the first party app, or don’t use the newer web UI, but some did. And more will follow as post quality suffers. And for each person tha leaves the default experiences, revenue will decline ever so slightly. In order to make up for that, the company needs to be more aggressive with its monetization, which makes the UX worse, which causes more people to leave. Then the cycle goes on.
This will be a slow process, but it’s the inevitable process of enshitification. Especially when you don’t already have a profitable business model. And Big Social is learning the hard way right now that community is profitable.
I think I’ve reached the point where no one will be able to convince me that Star Citizen is not a money laundering front.