Thank God we have you to police people’s use of hyperbole. I would’ve never known that this wasn’t actually worse than the Holocaust without you very valuable input.
I really hate how inflammatory Jobst is, but some of the things he pointed out in this video had my jaw on the floor, and it was the last straw for some folks - Jirard is apparently being removed from Sea of Stars, and a lot of folks online are pretty convinced now Jirard effed up.
This video was almost entirely excellent but I was so disappointed to see Karl cross over into being rude and unprofessional in a couple of places. I want micro-documentaries, not youtuber fights.
Present the facts, discuss possible explanations, then provide a conclusion based on both. No need to attack anyone personally, just discuss the facts.
I think when you cross into the “I’m going to sue you because you exposed me territory” it riles Karl up since he is getting sued by Billy Mitchell. But yeah this is becoming a fight.
I always like to be charitable with my opinions of other people. I liked to think that the best case scenario was that Jirard was lied to by his dad or something. But Jirard said he knew in 2021 that the money wasn’t being given away. He could have claimed he didn’t know, made sure the money went out ASAP and made a video saying he didn’t know and he fixed it. He made a lot of missteps, if not outright lies, and destroyed most of the goodwill he earned over the years. Whether that’s him defending his family or himself, doesn’t really matter anymore.
He not only said he knew in 2021, he went and claimed again in the next Indieland that the money was going to a bunch of places when he knew it wasn’t.
I’m glad the money finally got donated - even though the amount donated doesn’t cover everything they had in 2022 and doesn’t include anything from the golfing charity, so something is definitely sus there - but yeah, no one is ever going to trust him again, and they shouldn’t.
I liked when Karl talked about speed runs and showcased great moments in gaming. But, I guess he learned from the Billy Mitchell saga that drama gets way more views. 🤷♂️
You dont care about some immoral and possibly illegal activity done with charity money by a very big internet personality, because one other internet personality might talk about it with clickbait?
This schmuck is turning something you find important into drama. If the next dozen posts about this topic are more of the same emotionally-manipulative superlatives, then no, I really don’t care to follow along.
… Yes, because a well respected youtuber running a scam behind a massive charity and then repeatedly lying about it in stages after being caught is dramatic. This event is the very definition of drama. In fact, it may even be a crime.
I guess if you dont ever watch his stuff, give him money, or donate to charity ever, sure no one gives a shit if you dont care. But this is a pretty big deal that the community who funds both his scam and his channels need to know.
If seeing a mild clickbait thumbnail really has you breaking down like this, I honestly feel you just want to make drama about this youtuber, not that youre actually upset about anything.
Because thats such a nothing burger of a problem to have with someone talking about a multi year long scamming operation from a respected semi celebrity’s charity organization.
Mostly a lot of bad faith allegations with no receipts or snippets taken out of context and disingenuously framed. Jobst covered a lot of it in this video.
I think they might be confusing Karl with RWhiteGoose (now Goose’s Gaming Folklore), who is another Goldeneye speedrunner that does videos featuring speedruning accomplishments across the community. Goose is a neo-nazi.
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I guess the Holocaust must not have been so bad then. /S
This fucking guy. How can you take his arguments seriously with clickbait bullshit like this?
Thank God we have you to police people’s use of hyperbole. I would’ve never known that this wasn’t actually worse than the Holocaust without you very valuable input.
He’s up there innit?
yea i bet he didnt even really give it a proper though whether the 40 day flood was better or worse than the response in question
People who use hyperbole are literally the worst people.
I really hate how inflammatory Jobst is, but some of the things he pointed out in this video had my jaw on the floor, and it was the last straw for some folks - Jirard is apparently being removed from Sea of Stars, and a lot of folks online are pretty convinced now Jirard effed up.
This video was almost entirely excellent but I was so disappointed to see Karl cross over into being rude and unprofessional in a couple of places. I want micro-documentaries, not youtuber fights.
Present the facts, discuss possible explanations, then provide a conclusion based on both. No need to attack anyone personally, just discuss the facts.
But I guess that doesn’t sell views.
I think when you cross into the “I’m going to sue you because you exposed me territory” it riles Karl up since he is getting sued by Billy Mitchell. But yeah this is becoming a fight.
I always like to be charitable with my opinions of other people. I liked to think that the best case scenario was that Jirard was lied to by his dad or something. But Jirard said he knew in 2021 that the money wasn’t being given away. He could have claimed he didn’t know, made sure the money went out ASAP and made a video saying he didn’t know and he fixed it. He made a lot of missteps, if not outright lies, and destroyed most of the goodwill he earned over the years. Whether that’s him defending his family or himself, doesn’t really matter anymore.
He not only said he knew in 2021, he went and claimed again in the next Indieland that the money was going to a bunch of places when he knew it wasn’t.
I’m glad the money finally got donated - even though the amount donated doesn’t cover everything they had in 2022 and doesn’t include anything from the golfing charity, so something is definitely sus there - but yeah, no one is ever going to trust him again, and they shouldn’t.
I think his org, probably his dad, will have legal proceedings over the golf stuff.
I liked when Karl talked about speed runs and showcased great moments in gaming. But, I guess he learned from the Billy Mitchell saga that drama gets way more views. 🤷♂️
Yeeeah this is why I can’t care about this. No matter what Jirard did or how bad it was… Karl’s gonna do clickbait garbage about it.
You dont care about some immoral and possibly illegal activity done with charity money by a very big internet personality, because one other internet personality might talk about it with clickbait?
This schmuck is turning something you find important into drama. If the next dozen posts about this topic are more of the same emotionally-manipulative superlatives, then no, I really don’t care to follow along.
Would me caring change the outcome?
… Yes, because a well respected youtuber running a scam behind a massive charity and then repeatedly lying about it in stages after being caught is dramatic. This event is the very definition of drama. In fact, it may even be a crime.
I guess if you dont ever watch his stuff, give him money, or donate to charity ever, sure no one gives a shit if you dont care. But this is a pretty big deal that the community who funds both his scam and his channels need to know.
Dramatic events are not drama.
“THE WORST THING EVERRRR” is drama.
If seeing a mild clickbait thumbnail really has you breaking down like this, I honestly feel you just want to make drama about this youtuber, not that youre actually upset about anything.
Because thats such a nothing burger of a problem to have with someone talking about a multi year long scamming operation from a respected semi celebrity’s charity organization.
‘I am disinterested in this issue because of who’s presenting it’ is not exactly screaming and crying.
“Man I get its a decade long crime spree, but its so hard to care after I found out Matt Lauer reported on it” is a little bit crying, bud
Can we please stop giving this fucking nazi fan a platform?
Wait, which one? OOTL
Edit: googled it. Yikes.
You don’t like him = Nazi. Got it.
Well that’s a new allegation. Care to elaborate?
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ppffs0/whats_going_on_with_lies_being_spread_about_karl/
Make sure to follow all the links. A friend of Nazis is a Nazi. Fuck Karl Jobst.
Mostly a lot of bad faith allegations with no receipts or snippets taken out of context and disingenuously framed. Jobst covered a lot of it in this video.
https://youtu.be/3_jcpig-C2s?si=RiAvPoHAh3nVmNhK
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lol right? Where do Nazis come in here?
I think they might be confusing Karl with RWhiteGoose (now Goose’s Gaming Folklore), who is another Goldeneye speedrunner that does videos featuring speedruning accomplishments across the community. Goose is a neo-nazi.
And Karl is his friend caught openly agreeing with him while pretending that racist phrases aren’t a thing in Australia.
Source?
Already posted. Look at the links I shared in other posts.
Goose is not
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