Why would they make an easy solution to a problem they’ve created when they could sell you a convoluted one that makes use of everyone’s favourite buzz word?
How can they patent it? I’ve seen something very similar more than 20 years ago. AI is a keyword here? Like you can patent everything as long as it’s AI?
Yeah, it’s especially funny to me, because the word “AI” has been used in gaming to describe the behavior code for NPCs since forever. And in this case, they actually even happen to refer the same thing in the end. At best, it’s a different strategy for getting to that same end result.
I wonder if the much more sensible strategy of just making the ghost a recording of a person beating it, instead of shoehorning in AI, would infringe on this patent.
No one wants a ghost recording? Due to the common use of it in racing games since forever and the implementation of a similar mechanic in FromSoftware games being so well received.
Right. I’m going to have to suggest you re-read my comment and the context. What I was saying was that a ghost function that isn’t AI-powered wouldn’t be susceptible to legal action under this patent. I also have no doubt Sony will force this in anyway. All of the big companies have gone gaga for AI. I have absolutely no idea why other than very poorly made projections, but the reality is they insist on using the biggest crowbar they can find.
Let me guess, you have to pay a monthly subscription fee for this and if you want the free tier, it would just require you to play all games with an internet connection to ensure you aren’t doing something you shouldn’t and collecting your juicy data in the meantime. This fucking timeline is almost like the fallout timeline
Isn’t this a Nintendo thing from like the 2000s? Why would you even need to use AI when you could just use a recording of one of your testers doing it or (crazy thought) just using a “skip this” button? This seems like a dumb way to shoe-horn AI into something that doesn’t make sense.
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this seems dumb to me. spend dumptrucks full of money on AI, when they could have just included a ‘skip this part’ button that does the same thing?
Why would they make an easy solution to a problem they’ve created when they could sell you a convoluted one that makes use of everyone’s favourite buzz word?
lol “look at us! we’re using ai toooooo!!!”
get fucked, sony
Couldn’t agree more.
Old games just had cheat codes
I’m 100% certain I’ve seen this in a game ages ago, but without the dumb AI part.
Titanfall 2 definitely had the ghost thing.
I feel like that was a thing in one of the mario games?
Hmm, possible. Paper?
So … they patented NPCs?
I love patent illustrations.
That’s clearly two separate paths
A) Get Me Off B) Get Me Your Fucking Mail ing List
Needs more piss filter, distortions and random nonsense. Then it will truly be AI!
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How can they patent it? I’ve seen something very similar more than 20 years ago. AI is a keyword here? Like you can patent everything as long as it’s AI?
Yeah, it’s especially funny to me, because the word “AI” has been used in gaming to describe the behavior code for NPCs since forever. And in this case, they actually even happen to refer the same thing in the end. At best, it’s a different strategy for getting to that same end result.
I wonder if the much more sensible strategy of just making the ghost a recording of a person beating it, instead of shoehorning in AI, would infringe on this patent.
Thankfully that’s unlikely due to such an approach having a completely different implementation.
And also due to it being something no one fucking wants.
No one wants a ghost recording? Due to the common use of it in racing games since forever and the implementation of a similar mechanic in FromSoftware games being so well received.
Visual similarities ≠ identical mechanic.
FS’s is a way for human players to interact in each others games. And racing ghosts are just asynchronous multiplayer.
This is literal hand-holding so the player doesn’t have to bother actually playing the game.
Right. I’m going to have to suggest you re-read my comment and the context. What I was saying was that a ghost function that isn’t AI-powered wouldn’t be susceptible to legal action under this patent. I also have no doubt Sony will force this in anyway. All of the big companies have gone gaga for AI. I have absolutely no idea why other than very poorly made projections, but the reality is they insist on using the biggest crowbar they can find.
Let me guess, you have to pay a monthly subscription fee for this and if you want the free tier, it would just require you to play all games with an internet connection to ensure you aren’t doing something you shouldn’t and collecting your juicy data in the meantime. This fucking timeline is almost like the fallout timeline
Isn’t this a Nintendo thing from like the 2000s? Why would you even need to use AI when you could just use a recording of one of your testers doing it or (crazy thought) just using a “skip this” button? This seems like a dumb way to shoe-horn AI into something that doesn’t make sense.
I feel like they do not understand why people play games.
Also this thing is gonna get exploited for a cheat bot tout suite
Yeah, I usually KNOW how to get past an obstacle… sausage fingers are my issue, not inability to follow instructions or basic deduction skills.
I’ve got a fiver on it being hacked to cheat in competitive games.
Player: “Uh, hey… wouldn’t beating this section be easier if you didn’t jump directly into the lava pit?”
AI Ghost: “LOL, you’re right!! 😂😅🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ I’ll try to incorporate your feed back into future attempts to complete this section!”
<Proceeds to beeline for the lava pit and jump in>
The “claim” is that it would be trained on gameplay footage, so like … is it just going to do what a bunch of players do?
“I’m sorry, I’ve failed you. I’m trash.” <Corrupts your saves, for every game, including cloud saves. Bricks your system>
If I need help I will look up a video or a guide. I dont need a fucking AI.
Why even play the game then!?
Didn’t they have ‘drivatars’ in that racing game years ago at this point? An AI imitation of a player should not be patentable.
Good, now nobody else can implement this idiotic system and I will continue to just not buy Sony games.
Didn’t Nintendo already do this? Seems like an invalid patent.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/960544-new-super-mario-bros-wii/answers/130039-super-guide