Hey, so for some time now i had this problem… I have been buying games from both gog and steam… No drm option is good on gog but there are some festures missing from what steam has, for example being able to buy games from trading cards… What should i do? Focuse on buying games from gog and if there isnt a game then buy it on steam? Or maybe just buy games on steam?
It’s true that gog is better, but to completely misrepresent why people use steam is just disingenuous, it’s a better service than practically any other one out there(aside from gog ofc)
That’s not the point, you’re being intentionally disingenuous while not giving all the facts, specifically to prove your point. You don’t have the paint the entire picture, but to imply that the only thing steam has to offer is giving money to a billionaire is bullshit and you know it.
If anyone genuinely thinks my message is the only reason you’d buy from steam.and hardcore refused to read any other comments besides mine… I really dgaf about them. It’s like fox news always says, this is clearly for entertainment purposes only and only a fucking idiot would believe it.
You’re again missing the point, and then you try backpedaling by saying you weren’t actually being serious just to cover your bases. Jesus what an absolute twat you are.
What are you even talking about? There is no world in which a normal human would read my message and think “this is clearly the only reason a human would buy from steam”. There never was. There is also no world in which I am required to provide a serious response. You seem to just be mad I made fun of valve and are looking to start a fight, but you say it’s not because you’re a billionaire shill who wants to help get him a second yacht. So I just don’t really get what’s going on in your brain right now except some sort of bizarre mad at the world thing.
I’ve now rea through some of your recent comment history and understand you just take everything way too seriously. I do not. You may as well give up talking to me.
Also, sometimes games on gog don’t receive DLC or patch updates because the devs/publisher forget or don’t care. I remember seeing an extensive list of games, ~250, explaining what they had missing. I think A Hat in Time was one of the worst offenders
You can’t buy games from Steam.
You can only license them for private use, subject to a change in licensing terms or disappearance of the game from the platform at any time.
Gey, everyone. Thanks for your opinions. Here is what I decided to do. I will mostly buy from gog, if game isn’t on gog then from steam since after considering.
Steam can turn on a dime and we have seen what they can be like suspending the accounts of dead older brothers and letting developers abuse their customers. GOG is fundamentally free.
My general policy is to buy stuff from GoG that I will likely want to replay in the future and prioritize Steam for anything that I primarily play with friends (as that’s the main advantage of Steam for me). If it’s neither, I’ll default to GoG.
I buy on gog if it’s available there. Because no DRM is a great thing for simplicity’s sake for me. With that said, the experience running gog games, even with Heroic, on SteamOS is rough. But so far that hasn’t been enough to change my behavior.
Check both, if the game is available on both, then I will get it on Gog.
If not, Steam it is!
I have a few games I enjoy so much that I have bought them several times, including on both Steam and Gog.
An example, back in 2004/2005 I bought Unreal Tournament 2004 on CDs, then when I found it on Steam a few years later, I bought it there as well as I wanted a modern installer, finally I found it on Gog without DRM yet another few years later and bought it there as well.
I love that game and wanted the best installer for it, especially without DRM.
Fun fact, Unreal Tournament 2004 has a native Linux version on the retail disks, you will find a bash install script in the root on one of the CDs
I feel you do this quite nicely. Personally I think if I had bought such an old game already on physical media decades ago, I’d just pirate it now. I can see the argument though that GOG (or Steam for that matter) delivers tweaks that make old games work on new hardware though, so that is worth paying for. Guess it all comes down to pricing, I wouldn’t be willing to pay full price for just a patch that makes it work on current systems.
I have never really pirated games myself, I was always far too worried about malware to do it.
Though, when dad was traveling in Asia back in the early 2000s he used to come back home with a shitload of games/software which most had a folder called crack in the root of the CD…
GOG is great, but it would be silly to buy fighting games on there, for example, since it doesn’t have any infrastructure to support their multiplayer.
Similarly, if trading cards or achievements are detrimental to your enjoyment, stick to Steam.
I stick to Steam for the most part because 95% of my library is not on GOG.
You can get the steam Linux support and steam input by adding your gog games as non steam games or using heroic or lutris or the like. It usually works pretty well.
I love gog for being able to download and own the game. I have about 10x more games there than steam.
It’s a bit more hassle integrating them with the steam deck than steam is though.
I try to go GOG first, so I can keep the installation kits offline. There are however a lot of good indies on Steam, and few of these ever get ported from there. Steam workshop is also fantastic and doesn’t really have a match on other platforms, and unlike GOG they provide good linux support. Also worth noting that some of the old games on GOG are inferior to their steam counterparts ( see Commander Keen for example ). So yes, I’d say both are good, but maybe prioritise GOG first.
I don’t buy AAA games, so YMMV, but I buy my games almost exclusively from GOG and Itch these days. I have loads of games on Steam, but now the DRM-free aspect is most important to me. If something is only on Steam, I may still buy it if I can confirm that it’s “DRM-free” (e.g. bypassable Steam check) there, or if it’s so cheap that I won’t mind losing it. As honest as GabeN and the Steam team seem to be, I’ve been shafted enough times already.
The one drawback I see for buying on GOG vs buying on Steam (which can also be kind of an advantage depending on your perspective) is updates. Steam seems to let publishers push updates out whenever they want. While a few publishers do actually seem to forget about GOG, I have read comments from a few different developers (in response to complaints from customers) that they had sent their updates to GOG but were stuck in an approval process. It appears that the GOG team manually tests every update before putting it up for customers, and there’s a large backlog for a small team, so it can be several months before a patch gets through.
In my experience this is the biggest knock against it, and it can be fatal for multiplayer games. I had to wait several days for a patch to get pushed to continue my Baldur’s Gate 3 campaign with a friend because she’d picked it up on Steam. We eventually had her keep Steam offline.
Considering the condition games can be released in lately, it can really suck to wait in general, too.
I’m grateful for GoG’s manual testing process. But the forums often full of users blaming GoG for treating them as second class citizens for always late at push out updates, without seeing their efforts. Sometimes it’s indeed several months later than Steam, like Manor Lords. Sometimes developers do seems to abandon their GoG version altogether, like Hellish Quart. It sometimes feels like a vicious cycle to push users away.
I would prefer gog but with the steam deck, I find compatibility more reliable on Steam. Additionally, Steam workshop games are also really convenient.
Personally I use Steam for anything that has online functions and/or early access and GOG for everything else. Also I will buy direct from the developer (eg something like Software Inc) if I can but that option is getting harder to do.
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If you want to own the thing you purchase: gog
If you want to fund a billionaire super yacht and be subject to the whims of a large corporation run by a billionaire: steam
To me there’s no contest but a lot of people on lemmy are corporate shills.
It’s true that gog is better, but to completely misrepresent why people use steam is just disingenuous, it’s a better service than practically any other one out there(aside from gog ofc)
I offered one potential motivation which is giving billionaires a yacht
Other people have already listed their own motivation, I’m not required to represent every single possible motivation
That’s not the point, you’re being intentionally disingenuous while not giving all the facts, specifically to prove your point. You don’t have the paint the entire picture, but to imply that the only thing steam has to offer is giving money to a billionaire is bullshit and you know it.
If anyone genuinely thinks my message is the only reason you’d buy from steam.and hardcore refused to read any other comments besides mine… I really dgaf about them. It’s like fox news always says, this is clearly for entertainment purposes only and only a fucking idiot would believe it.
You’re again missing the point, and then you try backpedaling by saying you weren’t actually being serious just to cover your bases. Jesus what an absolute twat you are.
What are you even talking about? There is no world in which a normal human would read my message and think “this is clearly the only reason a human would buy from steam”. There never was. There is also no world in which I am required to provide a serious response. You seem to just be mad I made fun of valve and are looking to start a fight, but you say it’s not because you’re a billionaire shill who wants to help get him a second yacht. So I just don’t really get what’s going on in your brain right now except some sort of bizarre mad at the world thing.
I’ve now rea through some of your recent comment history and understand you just take everything way too seriously. I do not. You may as well give up talking to me.
Also, sometimes games on gog don’t receive DLC or patch updates because the devs/publisher forget or don’t care. I remember seeing an extensive list of games, ~250, explaining what they had missing. I think A Hat in Time was one of the worst offenders
Here’s a gog forum post on the problem - https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_is_it_truly_more_difficult_for_developers_to_update_their_games_on_gog/page1
That seems worthy of being a top level response to the question
You can’t buy games from Steam.
You can only license them for private use, subject to a change in licensing terms or disappearance of the game from the platform at any time.
Gey, everyone. Thanks for your opinions. Here is what I decided to do. I will mostly buy from gog, if game isn’t on gog then from steam since after considering.
Steam can turn on a dime and we have seen what they can be like suspending the accounts of dead older brothers and letting developers abuse their customers. GOG is fundamentally free.
My general policy is to buy stuff from GoG that I will likely want to replay in the future and prioritize Steam for anything that I primarily play with friends (as that’s the main advantage of Steam for me). If it’s neither, I’ll default to GoG.
I buy on gog if it’s available there. Because no DRM is a great thing for simplicity’s sake for me. With that said, the experience running gog games, even with Heroic, on SteamOS is rough. But so far that hasn’t been enough to change my behavior.
Check both, if the game is available on both, then I will get it on Gog.
If not, Steam it is!
I have a few games I enjoy so much that I have bought them several times, including on both Steam and Gog.
An example, back in 2004/2005 I bought Unreal Tournament 2004 on CDs, then when I found it on Steam a few years later, I bought it there as well as I wanted a modern installer, finally I found it on Gog without DRM yet another few years later and bought it there as well.
I love that game and wanted the best installer for it, especially without DRM.
Fun fact, Unreal Tournament 2004 has a native Linux version on the retail disks, you will find a bash install script in the root on one of the CDs
I feel you do this quite nicely. Personally I think if I had bought such an old game already on physical media decades ago, I’d just pirate it now. I can see the argument though that GOG (or Steam for that matter) delivers tweaks that make old games work on new hardware though, so that is worth paying for. Guess it all comes down to pricing, I wouldn’t be willing to pay full price for just a patch that makes it work on current systems.
I have never really pirated games myself, I was always far too worried about malware to do it.
Though, when dad was traveling in Asia back in the early 2000s he used to come back home with a shitload of games/software which most had a folder called crack in the root of the CD…
Occasionally I will prefer Steam to take advantage of Steam matchmaking
This is the reasonable way.
GOG is great, but it would be silly to buy fighting games on there, for example, since it doesn’t have any infrastructure to support their multiplayer.
Similarly, if trading cards or achievements are detrimental to your enjoyment, stick to Steam.
I stick to Steam for the most part because 95% of my library is not on GOG.
I buy from Steam because of the excellent Linux support, and Steam input.
I buy from GOG because I like owning my games and I like preserving good old games.
Every time I buy a game I make a choice based on those criteria.
I don’t like owning games twice.
The choice isn’t always easy, but that’s OK.
You can get the steam Linux support and steam input by adding your gog games as non steam games or using heroic or lutris or the like. It usually works pretty well.
I love gog for being able to download and own the game. I have about 10x more games there than steam. It’s a bit more hassle integrating them with the steam deck than steam is though.
I try to go GOG first, so I can keep the installation kits offline. There are however a lot of good indies on Steam, and few of these ever get ported from there. Steam workshop is also fantastic and doesn’t really have a match on other platforms, and unlike GOG they provide good linux support. Also worth noting that some of the old games on GOG are inferior to their steam counterparts ( see Commander Keen for example ). So yes, I’d say both are good, but maybe prioritise GOG first.
I don’t buy AAA games, so YMMV, but I buy my games almost exclusively from GOG and Itch these days. I have loads of games on Steam, but now the DRM-free aspect is most important to me. If something is only on Steam, I may still buy it if I can confirm that it’s “DRM-free” (e.g. bypassable Steam check) there, or if it’s so cheap that I won’t mind losing it. As honest as GabeN and the Steam team seem to be, I’ve been shafted enough times already.
The one drawback I see for buying on GOG vs buying on Steam (which can also be kind of an advantage depending on your perspective) is updates. Steam seems to let publishers push updates out whenever they want. While a few publishers do actually seem to forget about GOG, I have read comments from a few different developers (in response to complaints from customers) that they had sent their updates to GOG but were stuck in an approval process. It appears that the GOG team manually tests every update before putting it up for customers, and there’s a large backlog for a small team, so it can be several months before a patch gets through.
In my experience this is the biggest knock against it, and it can be fatal for multiplayer games. I had to wait several days for a patch to get pushed to continue my Baldur’s Gate 3 campaign with a friend because she’d picked it up on Steam. We eventually had her keep Steam offline.
Considering the condition games can be released in lately, it can really suck to wait in general, too.
I’m grateful for GoG’s manual testing process. But the forums often full of users blaming GoG for treating them as second class citizens for always late at push out updates, without seeing their efforts. Sometimes it’s indeed several months later than Steam, like Manor Lords. Sometimes developers do seems to abandon their GoG version altogether, like Hellish Quart. It sometimes feels like a vicious cycle to push users away.
I would prefer gog but with the steam deck, I find compatibility more reliable on Steam. Additionally, Steam workshop games are also really convenient.
Buy on gog if it’s there. Buy on steam otherwise. Keep a pirate copy handy either way.
If you own it on GoG you don’t need a pirate copy - just save the offline installer.
You might want a pirate steam copy if it’s one of the games that isn’t properly updated on gog, which is unfortunately common with newer (2016+) games
It’s ok to use all the different stores.
Personally I use Steam for anything that has online functions and/or early access and GOG for everything else. Also I will buy direct from the developer (eg something like Software Inc) if I can but that option is getting harder to do.