that button placement looks pretty bad. the 3 switches are right where you would be grabbing the phone. the power button looks like its on the opposite side to the volume button so when you go to change the volume (with one hand) youre likely to press the power button by accident.
If you go to china and go to a factory they will show you the menu where you can choose the components from, you just give them the 3d cad file of the desired form factor.
And prices are the one I linked.
You have to customize android, I know, and spend on marketing, but that’s it
Big companies sell their expensive phones for cheap because they’ll get their money selling your data and showing you ads. A phone like this won’t get any money out of you other than the money you give when buying the phone. So it makes sense that it’s pricey.
The truth is, if it wasn’t for data collection, these phones would be more expensive than this. So yeah, they are cheap compared to their price if companies didn’t collect user data.
I know there’s other costs associated (like the engineering and advertising) , but I happen to know with the iPhone 13 pro they were making about $400 per device. I doubt those margins have shrunk much, if at all, since then.
I mean, shout out to the drug dealer community out there, but I’d be more excited about… you know, a functional degoogled phone. Or, even better, a seamless way to do that to my existing phone, which I already like.
I do have fun, just not by insulting random people on the Internet, probably in part because I’m not an edgy teenager. You should probably re-evaluate your entertainment in that regard.
Because of the stupidly large screen and since Google keeps taking away android functionalities it might be good as a mini computer along with a cheap android device that you actually keep in your pocket.
No, just convert any laptop into Linux if you want an open-source computer. All these phablets are extremely unfriendly to people with hand pain/injuries. Bigger is not better and I really wish manufacturers knocked this off. Screens also dig into battery life tremendously.
I do have a Linux laptop and it’s too big to carry around all the time. The comment was half-joking because 6.7 is more a tablet than a phone so using it as a tablet might not be a bad idea (I don’t know it there are any actual Linux tablets out there).
I personally like large screens due to being able to see more (do have to mess with scaling and font sizes to force browsers). Though I do find that I can only do “serious” work with actual PCs (even tablets don’t “feel” right). Some things make more sense as having a mouse and keyboard are easier to just do things. But other times I can only describe trying to use small screens (including my large phones and tablets) as kind of a digital “claustrophobia” of sorts. Though some of that is because of touch interfaces/UX can’t show as many options/menus and the keyboards take up more of the space.
Though I do hate that we don’t see more compact flagship level options for folks that like them or need them. Apple is like the best option as far as losing fewer functions, and Samsung does still make a point of having a non-plus version of their main yearly releases.
As far as the screen size impacting battery. I think that the opposite is seen from the times I have heard it brought up. The larger body allows for more battery space. I believe that when I was looking at smaller phones for a friend that was thinking that a small screen would help reduce his desire to distract himself from being always on his phone. That one thing I saw people/articles mention was how one down-side for smaller phones was literally how they needed to charge more often to make it through the day. I think the resolution and refresh rates make the most impact on battery. As I remember my S8+ could do like 2k resolution, but in the settings it would mention that battery life might be less than if I picked 1080p. Which would still be an issue if I had the non-plus version.
My problem is that phones with any width greater than 71mm feel painful to use after a while. The keyboard feels too stretched out and harder to type on as well.
That is a real problem which is why a smaller (or even a “mini”) version of phones does matter. Keyboards can be adapted to be smaller, which can be helpful (but gets clunky when I have tried using those options from one-hand typing to two-hand adding steps). It does seem like the options for folks like yourself are an afterthought that leads to having to pick between being comfortable or having all the features and uncomfortable. Apple is basically the only OEM that has real options in both smaller and larger sizes without losing as many (if any depending on the year) features.
I have been using Samsung phones since the S3 and while I personally like the larger ones, I do have a friend that has also had their phones about as long as me. And he always gets the non-plus version of whatever the S series is out when he upgrades due to liking the smaller size (similar to your experience). But I know he would love a small version of the Ultra for the extra features, but don’t see Samsung doing that anytime soon. Which sucks given how much they try to be the “Apple” of Android devices.
This is the “Furi” phone that runs Debian underneath. As I remember it was around $550 for a phone with no headphone jack, no SD slot, and the usual sealed battery (no idea about replacements but maybe that info is somewhere). There was another thread about it a few days ago.
I’m not that excited but maybe others here will be.
I mean—it’s a good step in the direction of an actually usable Linux phone. And that would be great, being able to get a mobile OS outside of Google / Apple’s influence.
It says on the article it can take SD cards up to 1tb, and according to a reddit comment from someone who daily drives one, it has a removable back panel and battery.
them dudes should allow us paupers to get at the “furyos” with our shitty $50 phones. or at least put the evidently complete product it in the hands of someone who ran linux phones (i.e. experience with mobian, pmOS, phosh, etc) instead of confused youtubers swiping the same two screens left/right not undestanding dick about the issues.
I am not spending a multiple of the total of all my hardware combined in order to find out it has the same performance and issues my oneplus 6t with mobian has.
y’all with the graphenes and co., respectfully, you don’t understand what you’re talking about.
The recent Android side loading debacle was unexpected and unwanted. However, I hope to see more Linux phone development. It won’t all be brilliant, but that’s evolution.
why? why is this thing being posted so much everywhere?
linux phone
actually halium
hardware kill switches
I guess I just can’t see the utility vs leaving the phone at home since I don’t arrange 3AM deals by the docks
android app support
all we see is a shaky recording of a screen that looks like some gui to control waydroid settings
we have actual hardware now that works really well, has almost mainline linux kernel support, does not rely on oem hacks and proprietary blobs on top of android kernels to be useful, and is available now for $50 second hand in good condition
Yes, I mean the 2018 era SDM845 bunch of phones. They mostly work. While postmarketOS is the community that made linux on phones possible, it is not the only thing that you can run on these, there is actual choice. I personally liked Mobian very much.
Making linux phones more widely adopted will require wider community interest and halium is just not the way forward.
Edit: screenshot to illustrate my point, my OnePlus 6T running NixOS in UEFI mode (based on this writeup by /u/[email protected]:
haha, none at all!
I’ve spent like 6 months trying to boot normal NixOS instead of mobile-nixos, got it booting last week, almost nothing works, currently I’m trying to build a newer kernel and maybe fix sound.
I quite like the boot chain that I achieved (bootloader -> tianocore EDK II UEFI from Renegade Project -> normal systemd-boot) and I also installed the whole thing via USB by mounting disks directly.
On Mobian I think at least one camera did work but was purple all over, never actually tested the hardware on android.
All mobile distributions ship without kernel modules that I need, compiling manually on every update is not really sustainable, this is the reason why my setup is so convoluted.
I always wondered why anyone would choose to use that instead of Signal and GrapheneOS. I mean, removing cameras and microphones is a great tactic, but why use some shady software instead of something that was proven to work many times? Even if that service was authentic, how long would it take for law enforcement to learn about it, seize the servers and collect metadata? There must be people who are competent in tech and also happen to be cartel members.
I’ve read somewhere that the massive explosion in popularity happened in 2020 when someone stole and cloned the PCs that were used to install the ROMs on Android phones. By then GrapheneOS head dev’s conflict with CopperheadOS team was very widely publicized and GrapheneOS’s security debate was impossible to miss.
Anyway, here’s a phone and a messaging app that will only be provided to you and other criminals, it is very secure
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No thanks, I stay with grapheneOS for the moment
Can I just stun them instead?
that button placement looks pretty bad. the 3 switches are right where you would be grabbing the phone. the power button looks like its on the opposite side to the volume button so when you go to change the volume (with one hand) youre likely to press the power button by accident.
Interesting.
Yes , it’s got decent hardware, but they should cut the price off in half
While I agree with that, they don’t have the luxury of scale of mass production, so it’s not possible for them (yet hopefully)
I know prices may be higher but check this: https://www.techwalls.com/production-costs-of-smartphones
If you go to china and go to a factory they will show you the menu where you can choose the components from, you just give them the 3d cad file of the desired form factor. And prices are the one I linked. You have to customize android, I know, and spend on marketing, but that’s it
Hmm fair enough, maybe the more special features are the main reason it is so pricey, like the physical modem switches? Just a guess.
Probably yes, but iirc the pine phone has them too and it’s 150€
Big companies sell their expensive phones for cheap because they’ll get their money selling your data and showing you ads. A phone like this won’t get any money out of you other than the money you give when buying the phone. So it makes sense that it’s pricey.
“Big companies sell their high end phones for cheap”
What crack rock are you sleeping under? I can buy a street legal used vehicle for less than the “latest and greatest” samsung or Apple phone.
The truth is, if it wasn’t for data collection, these phones would be more expensive than this. So yeah, they are cheap compared to their price if companies didn’t collect user data.
I know there’s other costs associated (like the engineering and advertising) , but I happen to know with the iPhone 13 pro they were making about $400 per device. I doubt those margins have shrunk much, if at all, since then.
Thanks… That one took me back a bit. We are age of 1k+ flagship devices jfc
Like $1400 or $1500 for the top S line phone, and $3,000 for the top Samsung fold. Fuck all of that.
The response time looks really slow in the video. Not sure I’ve ever seen a loading logo for the settings menu before.
I mean, shout out to the drug dealer community out there, but I’d be more excited about… you know, a functional degoogled phone. Or, even better, a seamless way to do that to my existing phone, which I already like.
That might not be possible in the future, hence Linux phones.
6.7inch screen, wtf.
Fuck you. I want a screen this size.
Suck my cock, clown.
This is the kind of discourse I am here for
This is not the kind of discourse I am here for.
Which discourse is just right, Goldilocks?
Civil discourse without unnecessary name calling, ass.
Oh, have a lil fun. Lol
I do have fun, just not by insulting random people on the Internet, probably in part because I’m not an edgy teenager. You should probably re-evaluate your entertainment in that regard.
You should evaluate ligma.
(Judging by their convo)
I would, but science hasn’t made magnification powerful enough to locate it.
You can’t see six inches of dick? You should probably schedule an appointment with an optometrist.
Because of the stupidly large screen and since Google keeps taking away android functionalities it might be good as a mini computer along with a cheap android device that you actually keep in your pocket.
No, just convert any laptop into Linux if you want an open-source computer. All these phablets are extremely unfriendly to people with hand pain/injuries. Bigger is not better and I really wish manufacturers knocked this off. Screens also dig into battery life tremendously.
I do have a Linux laptop and it’s too big to carry around all the time. The comment was half-joking because 6.7 is more a tablet than a phone so using it as a tablet might not be a bad idea (I don’t know it there are any actual Linux tablets out there).
I personally like large screens due to being able to see more (do have to mess with scaling and font sizes to force browsers). Though I do find that I can only do “serious” work with actual PCs (even tablets don’t “feel” right). Some things make more sense as having a mouse and keyboard are easier to just do things. But other times I can only describe trying to use small screens (including my large phones and tablets) as kind of a digital “claustrophobia” of sorts. Though some of that is because of touch interfaces/UX can’t show as many options/menus and the keyboards take up more of the space.
Though I do hate that we don’t see more compact flagship level options for folks that like them or need them. Apple is like the best option as far as losing fewer functions, and Samsung does still make a point of having a non-plus version of their main yearly releases.
As far as the screen size impacting battery. I think that the opposite is seen from the times I have heard it brought up. The larger body allows for more battery space. I believe that when I was looking at smaller phones for a friend that was thinking that a small screen would help reduce his desire to distract himself from being always on his phone. That one thing I saw people/articles mention was how one down-side for smaller phones was literally how they needed to charge more often to make it through the day. I think the resolution and refresh rates make the most impact on battery. As I remember my S8+ could do like 2k resolution, but in the settings it would mention that battery life might be less than if I picked 1080p. Which would still be an issue if I had the non-plus version.
My problem is that phones with any width greater than 71mm feel painful to use after a while. The keyboard feels too stretched out and harder to type on as well.
That is a real problem which is why a smaller (or even a “mini”) version of phones does matter. Keyboards can be adapted to be smaller, which can be helpful (but gets clunky when I have tried using those options from one-hand typing to two-hand adding steps). It does seem like the options for folks like yourself are an afterthought that leads to having to pick between being comfortable or having all the features and uncomfortable. Apple is basically the only OEM that has real options in both smaller and larger sizes without losing as many (if any depending on the year) features.
I have been using Samsung phones since the S3 and while I personally like the larger ones, I do have a friend that has also had their phones about as long as me. And he always gets the non-plus version of whatever the S series is out when he upgrades due to liking the smaller size (similar to your experience). But I know he would love a small version of the Ultra for the extra features, but don’t see Samsung doing that anytime soon. Which sucks given how much they try to be the “Apple” of Android devices.
De-junked url: https://www.yankodesign.com/2025/09/23/this-linux-phone-with-android-app-support-has-three-kill-switches-for-complete-privacy/
This is the “Furi” phone that runs Debian underneath. As I remember it was around $550 for a phone with no headphone jack, no SD slot, and the usual sealed battery (no idea about replacements but maybe that info is somewhere). There was another thread about it a few days ago.
I’m not that excited but maybe others here will be.
I mean—it’s a good step in the direction of an actually usable Linux phone. And that would be great, being able to get a mobile OS outside of Google / Apple’s influence.
Actually they have a video on yet about a removable battery which is also waterproof, maybe the new model though.
I never heard about this phone before, but its android container seems very well engineered. I wonder how banking apps and android auto behave
Yeah. The original before this had a jack, etc. Actually want the original but apparently theyre not selling it anymore.
It says on the article it can take SD cards up to 1tb, and according to a reddit comment from someone who daily drives one, it has a removable back panel and battery.
them dudes should allow us paupers to get at the “furyos” with our shitty $50 phones. or at least put the evidently complete product it in the hands of someone who ran linux phones (i.e. experience with mobian, pmOS, phosh, etc) instead of confused youtubers swiping the same two screens left/right not undestanding dick about the issues.
I am not spending a multiple of the total of all my hardware combined in order to find out it has the same performance and issues my oneplus 6t with mobian has.
y’all with the graphenes and co., respectfully, you don’t understand what you’re talking about.
The fact of this gets posted and upvoted on [email protected] shows how much goodwill Google burned with the enthusiast community.
The recent Android side loading debacle was unexpected and unwanted. However, I hope to see more Linux phone development. It won’t all be brilliant, but that’s evolution.
Gotta start with throwing shit against a wall & and keeping what sticks. First iterations are usually messy.
why? why is this thing being posted so much everywhere?
actually halium
I guess I just can’t see the utility vs leaving the phone at home since I don’t arrange 3AM deals by the docks
all we see is a shaky recording of a screen that looks like some gui to control waydroid settings
we have actual hardware now that works really well, has almost mainline linux kernel support, does not rely on oem hacks and proprietary blobs on top of android kernels to be useful, and is available now for $50 second hand in good condition
Do you mean postmarketOS compatible phones? Because I don’t see what else you could be talking about in regards to phone hardware with mainline Linux.
Yes, I mean the 2018 era SDM845 bunch of phones. They mostly work. While postmarketOS is the community that made linux on phones possible, it is not the only thing that you can run on these, there is actual choice. I personally liked Mobian very much.
Making linux phones more widely adopted will require wider community interest and halium is just not the way forward.
Edit: screenshot to illustrate my point, my OnePlus 6T running NixOS in UEFI mode (based on this writeup by /u/[email protected]:
spoiler
thanks for the linked writeup, always new stuff to learn.
I’m on 6T and mobian, how’s your luck with taming cameras?
haha, none at all! I’ve spent like 6 months trying to boot normal NixOS instead of mobile-nixos, got it booting last week, almost nothing works, currently I’m trying to build a newer kernel and maybe fix sound.
I quite like the boot chain that I achieved (bootloader -> tianocore EDK II UEFI from Renegade Project -> normal systemd-boot) and I also installed the whole thing via USB by mounting disks directly.
On Mobian I think at least one camera did work but was purple all over, never actually tested the hardware on android.
All mobile distributions ship without kernel modules that I need, compiling manually on every update is not really sustainable, this is the reason why my setup is so convoluted.
Reminds me of AN0M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield
I always wondered why anyone would choose to use that instead of Signal and GrapheneOS. I mean, removing cameras and microphones is a great tactic, but why use some shady software instead of something that was proven to work many times? Even if that service was authentic, how long would it take for law enforcement to learn about it, seize the servers and collect metadata? There must be people who are competent in tech and also happen to be cartel members.
GrapheneOS didn’t exist back then lol
I’ve read somewhere that the massive explosion in popularity happened in 2020 when someone stole and cloned the PCs that were used to install the ROMs on Android phones. By then GrapheneOS head dev’s conflict with CopperheadOS team was very widely publicized and GrapheneOS’s security debate was impossible to miss.
Anyway, here’s a phone and a messaging app that will only be provided to you and other criminals, it is very secure
I’ll have to check what’s with the security stuff … That many apps now require to be signed and bootloader locked.
Signature is the only required afaik, alternative stores have been guaranteed to continue to work. Do they want to check bootloader too?
Yes, some do. And if they detect root, they don’t work…i recall Authy was problematic like this lately.
Ok but that’s specific to some apps requirements, Google won’t require it for all apps like they’ll do with signature
“This Linux phone”
Stupid ass clickbait title.
It’s the Furi Labs FLX1s (which seems to be a downgrade of the FLX1)
For the same price, too. Dumb