Remember when he got rid of David Hayter, the iconic long-time voice actor of Snake, main character of his most popular series, just so he could replace him with some Hollywood actor doing a generic gruff guy impression? Then said actor ended up being so expensive that there was barely any dialogue… in a Metal Gear game?
I would buy it if the excuse was they wanted an actor that could do voice as well as motion capture, and maybe David Hayter wasn’t cut to do both at the same time. In some promo it sounded like they wanted someone who could do both. In the age of motion capture, it’s going to be jarring to record voice lines in a booth separately. Particularly if multiple actors interact with each other in a scene.
But no. There was barely any interesting acting at all from Snake. Most of the acting was carried by the other characters, while Snake was just grunting doing nothing in particular.
And it would have worked perfectly with Hayter as both parts. He’s a voice actor; he can do a second voice of Ishmael pretending to be someone else. As for Venom sounding the same, well, hypnosis/mind control and plastic surgery are basically magic in this universe anyway (see Decoy Octopus, Liquid Ocelot, or hell just Ocelot in this same game).
Though that’d be torpedoed by Kojima’s feud with Konami over crediting and its result of every scene in MGS5 listing (spoiling) its participants with a credit byline. In that case the intro could have used a different voice for Ishmael, and then the forced replay later that shows what actually happened could switch to Hayter.
On the other hand, it’s easier to bring out the details in older people or people with lots of freckles. I’ve tried to use Japanese people in the past, but it’s hard to make them look like their real-life counterparts. However, this time I used new technology, and I’m quite satisfied with the results. Well, I’d like to do even better next time.
It’s normal for CG artists to do their best to make their work look like real life and not CG, though. Death Stranding is clearly attempting to look as realistic as they can manage
Honestly, with how Kojima left Konami in the middle of the production of mgs5, pretty sure Kojima just wanted to make something other than a mgs game. With mgs5, he made one of the best stealth simulators hands down. But, it felt the least like a ‘mgs’ game, especially a ‘snake’ game. I could definitely feel death stranding vibes from it though.
That’s my guess why he ditched David in mgs5.
Pretty sure he was just sick of only making the same games over and over. Especially after he made 4 since it is obvious to me that he put everything he had into finishing the story of mgs.
He was itching to make death stranding for a long time imo.
He wanted out for a long time, IIRC as early as MGS 2. 4 was originally planned to end with Snake and Otacon being captured and executed for terrorism to put the final nail in the franchise’s coffin, with Kojima only dropping the idea after his entire writing staff protested.
I think you hit the nail on the head with his dissatisfaction being why 5 felt so different. It barely feels like a Metal Gear game even if the stealth is at its all-time best, but you can definitely see some proto-Death Stranding DNA in it in retrospect. He was clearly experimenting with new gameplay ideas, which might explain why the game went so far over budget and ended up unfinished.
I wonder if talent agencies have something to do with that. SEGA had long postponed Judgment PC release because they put a popular TV show star as an MC and their agency insisted it shouldn’t leave closed consoles’ systems because his likeness can be used to do obscene (or just unapproved\unpaid) things via mods.
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Is it because he’s a westaboo?
Yep.
Remember when he got rid of David Hayter, the iconic long-time voice actor of Snake, main character of his most popular series, just so he could replace him with some Hollywood actor doing a generic gruff guy impression? Then said actor ended up being so expensive that there was barely any dialogue… in a Metal Gear game?
I would buy it if the excuse was they wanted an actor that could do voice as well as motion capture, and maybe David Hayter wasn’t cut to do both at the same time. In some promo it sounded like they wanted someone who could do both. In the age of motion capture, it’s going to be jarring to record voice lines in a booth separately. Particularly if multiple actors interact with each other in a scene.
But no. There was barely any interesting acting at all from Snake. Most of the acting was carried by the other characters, while Snake was just grunting doing nothing in particular.
I’d rather take MGS4 Snake any day.
The motion capture excuse would also hold more water if they didn’t go for an actor only two years younger than David Hayter.
You do know there’s a reason for that voice difference in MGSV right?
Except that Ground Zeroes exists and also Episode 46 of Phantom Pain. This would actually have made sense if …
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Hayter were involved to voice Naked Snake for his parts and then if Sutherland had only voiced Venom Snake.
But that didn’t happen. No, Hideo and Konami were just idiots about it starting with Ground Zeroes.
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And it would have worked perfectly with Hayter as both parts. He’s a voice actor; he can do a second voice of Ishmael pretending to be someone else. As for Venom sounding the same, well, hypnosis/mind control and plastic surgery are basically magic in this universe anyway (see Decoy Octopus, Liquid Ocelot, or hell just Ocelot in this same game).
Though that’d be torpedoed by Kojima’s feud with Konami over crediting and its result of every scene in MGS5 listing (spoiling) its participants with a credit byline. In that case the intro could have used a different voice for Ishmael, and then the forced replay later that shows what actually happened could switch to Hayter.
I do, but I also know he’d been trying to get rid of Hayter for a while by then even though he was the voice of Snake, so the excuse rings hollow.
But also
It’s a video game. It’s all CG.
I think the next quote explains it better:
He should get tips from the Yakuza team
That tip basically boils down to:
Use Japanese face models / voice actors who’ve been smoking for 20 years, rofl.
Or sucker punch. The cast of ghost of tsushima looks identical to their voice actors.
It’s normal for CG artists to do their best to make their work look like real life and not CG, though. Death Stranding is clearly attempting to look as realistic as they can manage
Honestly, with how Kojima left Konami in the middle of the production of mgs5, pretty sure Kojima just wanted to make something other than a mgs game. With mgs5, he made one of the best stealth simulators hands down. But, it felt the least like a ‘mgs’ game, especially a ‘snake’ game. I could definitely feel death stranding vibes from it though.
That’s my guess why he ditched David in mgs5.
Pretty sure he was just sick of only making the same games over and over. Especially after he made 4 since it is obvious to me that he put everything he had into finishing the story of mgs.
He was itching to make death stranding for a long time imo.
He wanted out for a long time, IIRC as early as MGS 2. 4 was originally planned to end with Snake and Otacon being captured and executed for terrorism to put the final nail in the franchise’s coffin, with Kojima only dropping the idea after his entire writing staff protested.
I think you hit the nail on the head with his dissatisfaction being why 5 felt so different. It barely feels like a Metal Gear game even if the stealth is at its all-time best, but you can definitely see some proto-Death Stranding DNA in it in retrospect. He was clearly experimenting with new gameplay ideas, which might explain why the game went so far over budget and ended up unfinished.
Wasn’t it that he ditched David because
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It is not snake?
You could make that argument, but I dont buy it.
I think the real official reason is because Kojima wanted an actor, not just a voice actor, for motion capture.
Also Kojima secretly just wants to be a movie director.
Guess you are right.
Saw in another thread that snake is in the game and wasn’t voiced by hader so the whole argument falls apart.
I wonder if talent agencies have something to do with that. SEGA had long postponed Judgment PC release because they put a popular TV show star as an MC and their agency insisted it shouldn’t leave closed consoles’ systems because his likeness can be used to do obscene (or just unapproved\unpaid) things via mods.
Why are we using actors for cartoons? Are games not already expensive?
It’s cheaper that way.