Over four years after Epic broke App Store rules and sparked a billion-dollar battle, "Fortnite" is finally back on iPhone and iPad.
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With switch emulation possible via StikDebug and now this

It’s just W after W against Apple and I’m here for it

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Yes, I know, Fortnite bad, but this is a big deal. The way we got here is often embarrassing, but this is a major step toward tearing down walled garden ecosystems.

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I mean…do we want to tear it down?

Apple is apple. They don’t make false claims about how walled off they are.

Android is android. And for people who want to strip out all the google stuff, you can. And you can use F-Droid exclusively.

But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

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Don’t let “perfect” be the enemy of “good”

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Especially when Apple is the one who dictates what is “perfect”.

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Yes, we want to tear it down. This is a company that was taking a revenue share of any purchase made on their device, whether or not they incurred a cost in facilitating it. It’s universally bad for consumers. It’s why game prices on consoles don’t have competition like they do on PC, and it’s responsible for consumers feeling lock-in to an ecosystem, feeling as though they can’t respond to a bad product by moving to the competitor.

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by moving to the competitor

That’s where I am with the Xbox. I’m pretty happy with it and don’t want to switch over, but the massive digital catalogue I’ve accrued would make me really hesitant if they start shitting it up.

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It helps that it’s trending towards being a pre-built PC more and more, and I do think that will help in some regard. If the PC and Xbox versions are able to be the same, then dev costs go down, and you get a pretty solid idea of what a good lower-to-mid tier spec PC can do and optimize for that. It also would hopefully mean that more and more catalog becomes playable on PC, but who knows how far back that would go. Maybe Microsoft would make an emulator that you log-in to for access to 360-onward games? May be extreme wishful thinking there tho lol

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I mean…do we want to tear it down?

Pretty sure we do.

Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

So you agree it’s good Fortnite now exists on iOS? Apple users get more options?

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Apple is apple. They don’t make false claims about how walled off they are.

That’s doesn’t make it a good thing.

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But look at the typical apple user. Do you think they’re going to be happy without the apple experience?

The Apple experience = locked down devices? If people (and Apple) stopped fearmongering about “security” or whatever, yeah they would, or at worst they wouldn’t care. I’d certainly welcome being able to publish apps on my terms, and being able to install what I want.

Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.

That’s exactly the point. You don’t have to use the parts of a theoretical more open ecosystem if you don’t want to, you can keep using exclusively the official Apple stuff. But it creates more choice for the user if it exists.

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This iai going to be as drawn out as the SCO thing isnt it

Or maybe more like the Jarndyce v Jarndyce in Dicken’s Bleak House

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This CRASH is NOT a “Game”… It’s (Shopping). And the reasons why our beloved hobby is riddled with GREED.

#RETROGAMING

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Fortnite is completely free to play friendly. There is no pay to win.

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Whats “Free” when the point of said (APP) is locked behind pay-walls!? Modern day “gaming” sucks, paying for content that was once earned through gameplay is NOT Rewarding nor Gaming, it’s essentially Online Shopping. Fortnite is a Freemium Application which utilizes (In app purchase mechanics/ psychology) to lure in ‘Payer$’. Particularly the Youth which are more impressionable.

Why don’t you do some research on your beloved Applications:

The psychology of in-app purchase… South Park: season 18 Episode 6 (Freemium isn’t Free)… HOW microtransactions ruined gaming… HOW Season Passes ruined gaming… HOW Battle Passes ruined gaming… HOW Live Services ruined gaming

Battle passes are replacing loot boxes, but they’re not necessarily a better deal:

https://www.pcgamer.com/battle-passes-are-replacing-loot-boxes-but-theyre-not-necessarily-a-better-deal/

Our Hobby is COOKED over Greed & Ignorance.

#RETROGAMING #VIDEOGAMECRASHOF1983

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Skins are not the point of fortnite. What?

If youth are spending too much money on fortnite, that’s their parent’s failure to control them,quite honestly.

Battle passes are ass but fortnite’s system of finances is far more ethical than most games

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Yeah as much as I dislike the business model of microtransactions in modern games, and fortnite is the most popular and blatant example, they’re also pretty much the gold standard in how it should be done.

I’m pretty emotionally ambivalent towards it. I both dislike and respect it at the same time.

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Isn’t this news like 4 months old or something?

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No, Epic just recently won the court case against Apple. The Epic submitted this game to the App Store after winning, but Apple didn’t approve or reject it.

Epic then brought another court case against Apple for not approving their app and now, without going to court, the app is back on the App Store.

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Nice! Now I can play an old game at 4fps and drain my 100% charged battery in 6 minutes!

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No it is not 😂

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