I’ve actually been “maintaining” my Dad’s GOG account since he died some years ago. Anytime there’s a giveaway I log into both our accounts and download, one for me, one for him. No point to it really, just out of remembrance, though I’ll probably hand it off to one of my kids at some point.
Title of PCGamer’s article is misleading, they want a court order to do it. Proof of death is not enough.
“In general, your GOG account and GOG content is not transferable. However, if you can obtain a copy of a court order that specifically entitles someone to your GOG personal account, the digital content attached to it taking into account the EULAs of specific games within it, and that specifically refers to your GOG username or at least email address used to create such an account, we’d do our best to make it happen. We’re willing to handle such a situation and preserve your GOG library—but currently we can only do it with the help of the justice system.”
They have to do that anyway. Court orders overrule a company’s policies in most (all?) legal systems.
No, it is legal speech for “we think you want that and we think you are dumb enough to believe we can actually deliver that so lets give it a try to pretend we are doing that”.
Being as it’s GOG that’s saying that, I don’t agree with that statement, if it was any other company out there I would fully agree with it, but that statement goes against the core values of what they’ve built gog of from the point of creation.
They know that if they did try to push something like that without a court order that no studio is going to want to release, because let’s be real they’re already struggling finding Studios to want to release on them without any form of DRM,
About time they publicly released that on death we’re going to transfer every license over to another person by request without a requirement to go through the game studios itself, almost every Studio on their platform is going to withdraw their licensing to Gog to distribute the game, because that is less money in the company’s hand because they want each generation to buy their games, because less people buying the games means less money in their pocket.
With this method they can state “hey we’re following the legal system we have a court order saying to hand over the keys, our hands are tied” which from a business point of view is a lot more understandable then “We are going to allow giving away your game to free on death to the next person in line”
But my point is that you are not going to get that court order so they suggest a scenario that is totally unrealistic. No court is going to order a game store to transfer an account.
there has been a few cases (with steam) of having a court issue an order on death to transfer the library, but yea it does not happen as common as it should
The whole thing is vaguely and noncomittally worded, it promises basically nothing.
Take this bit for example:
taking into account the EULAs of specific games within it
In other words: talk to the individual publishers of each game and get their permission :P At which point GOG’s involvement is almost irrelevant, if you have the publisher’s consent then they might as well give you a copy.
Isn’t this the same with any asset for probate? In the UK, you cannot just hand them a pinky promise IOU. If the person has 4 kids and a wife, who gets the steam library? Courts decide this.
I would assume that court orders and proved wills have different levels of coercion when you present them to someone like GOG? Dunno. Each country probably has its own rules, including fun complexities like whether or not GOG was a party to the process or not.
Sure, but if you ever get locked out I assume support will want to verify your identity and if you can’t do that because the owner is dead, they will probably deny you (and maybe even shutdown the account if you can prove the owner is dead)
But if you can transfer the account to another person that would be nice.
I can’t even imagine 100 years from now when gamers are dying every day.
Right now I feel like I can change an account name and email pretty easily and nobody would care. But when that account is 130 years old, someone might start asking questions
100 years? 28% of gamers are in their 30s. 43% are 40 and older. And that’s just in the US. Average life expectancy at birth in the US for people who are now in their 30s and 40s is 74-75.
I think the opposite, if you want to adjust your jumping to judgemental conclusions. I’m old and social. I grew up in a place where nobody gamed or had computers.
Nearly all of the close people in my life did not/do not game. My circle is outdoorsy or go out somewhere people I guess. We have kids and families and precious little free time. I’ve never had friends come over to game or however that goes. I guess I could seek out people who want to game with me, but if someone has free time at the same time as I do, we’d rather do something else.
Aren’t you the one who generalized your situation and assumed most gamers are either young or not that common, so it would take 100 years until it becomes a daily occurrence for gamers to die? It’s already a daily occurrence today.
Sorry I threw out a hyperbolic number to a future time for a conversational thought experiment, despite it being rationally accurate. Someone else shared some data that yes, most deaths are not gamers. 3/4 of deaths are old age over the age of 65, and 6% of people over the age of 65 play video games. But that doesn’t matter. I said you were being judgmental about me as a person for some reason and that wasn’t called for.
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I think the title need a little work…
How can I prove I’m dead?
Someone else can, but the title says I have to.
I’ve actually been “maintaining” my Dad’s GOG account since he died some years ago. Anytime there’s a giveaway I log into both our accounts and download, one for me, one for him. No point to it really, just out of remembrance, though I’ll probably hand it off to one of my kids at some point.
Title of PCGamer’s article is misleading, they want a court order to do it. Proof of death is not enough.
They have to do that anyway. Court orders overrule a company’s policies in most (all?) legal systems.
The fuck do they mean they will try?
“Oh no there’s no way we could possibly break out of these invisible shackles we put on ourselves”
It’s legal speech for “we want to however if we straight out say we’re going to do it no studio is going to want to release games on our platform”
No, it is legal speech for “we think you want that and we think you are dumb enough to believe we can actually deliver that so lets give it a try to pretend we are doing that”.
Being as it’s GOG that’s saying that, I don’t agree with that statement, if it was any other company out there I would fully agree with it, but that statement goes against the core values of what they’ve built gog of from the point of creation.
They know that if they did try to push something like that without a court order that no studio is going to want to release, because let’s be real they’re already struggling finding Studios to want to release on them without any form of DRM,
About time they publicly released that on death we’re going to transfer every license over to another person by request without a requirement to go through the game studios itself, almost every Studio on their platform is going to withdraw their licensing to Gog to distribute the game, because that is less money in the company’s hand because they want each generation to buy their games, because less people buying the games means less money in their pocket.
With this method they can state “hey we’re following the legal system we have a court order saying to hand over the keys, our hands are tied” which from a business point of view is a lot more understandable then “We are going to allow giving away your game to free on death to the next person in line”
But my point is that you are not going to get that court order so they suggest a scenario that is totally unrealistic. No court is going to order a game store to transfer an account.
there has been a few cases (with steam) of having a court issue an order on death to transfer the library, but yea it does not happen as common as it should
The whole thing is vaguely and noncomittally worded, it promises basically nothing.
Take this bit for example:
In other words: talk to the individual publishers of each game and get their permission :P At which point GOG’s involvement is almost irrelevant, if you have the publisher’s consent then they might as well give you a copy.
Isn’t this the same with any asset for probate? In the UK, you cannot just hand them a pinky promise IOU. If the person has 4 kids and a wife, who gets the steam library? Courts decide this.
I would assume that court orders and proved wills have different levels of coercion when you present them to someone like GOG? Dunno. Each country probably has its own rules, including fun complexities like whether or not GOG was a party to the process or not.
It’s a lot easier to just share a login…
Sure, but if you ever get locked out I assume support will want to verify your identity and if you can’t do that because the owner is dead, they will probably deny you (and maybe even shutdown the account if you can prove the owner is dead) But if you can transfer the account to another person that would be nice.
Do what a cat would do; leave a corpse at their doorstep.
What if I send em the video of my suicide? Would it be enough?
Nope, you have to make an appearance in court and provide documentation of your death.
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That would be kinda hard I guess
Just plan ahead. You might need to do it on a full moon or something, you might need to check with your local poltergeist to get specifics.
I can’t even imagine 100 years from now when gamers are dying every day.
Right now I feel like I can change an account name and email pretty easily and nobody would care. But when that account is 130 years old, someone might start asking questions
100 years? 28% of gamers are in their 30s. 43% are 40 and older. And that’s just in the US. Average life expectancy at birth in the US for people who are now in their 30s and 40s is 74-75.
You must be quite young or sheltered if you haven’t had a few gamers you knew die already. Not everyone dies of old age.
I think the opposite, if you want to adjust your jumping to judgemental conclusions. I’m old and social. I grew up in a place where nobody gamed or had computers.
Nearly all of the close people in my life did not/do not game. My circle is outdoorsy or go out somewhere people I guess. We have kids and families and precious little free time. I’ve never had friends come over to game or however that goes. I guess I could seek out people who want to game with me, but if someone has free time at the same time as I do, we’d rather do something else.
Hope this broadens your perspective of people.
Aren’t you the one who generalized your situation and assumed most gamers are either young or not that common, so it would take 100 years until it becomes a daily occurrence for gamers to die? It’s already a daily occurrence today.
I didn’t judge anyone.
Sorry I threw out a hyperbolic number to a future time for a conversational thought experiment, despite it being rationally accurate. Someone else shared some data that yes, most deaths are not gamers. 3/4 of deaths are old age over the age of 65, and 6% of people over the age of 65 play video games. But that doesn’t matter. I said you were being judgmental about me as a person for some reason and that wasn’t called for.