I thought it was FOSS?
Here their GitHub. I’m not an expert in licenses and all that, but it looks like it has even been forked. You can’t even see proprietary, let alone fork it. I could be wrong, though. Correct me if I’m wrong, please.
I see. I think Louis Rossmann (he works for Futo, the company behind this app and other FOSS apps) said in a video that they’ll eventually open source it? I don’t remember exactly.
We need to hit him up about it on one of his videos. They do advocate for FOSS all the time. They even pay people create FOSS apps. Not sure why not this one.
NewPipe subscriptions can also be imported into Free tube to get it in sync with your phone subscriptions.
Be sure to use NewPipe with sponsor block (forked project). Although this had been giving me trouble and there’s another fork called Tubular that works great.
Anybody know if some of these platforms support streaming? I’ve been meaning to try out kick.com as well as a Twitch alternative but it’s still a business with proprietary solution.
Peertube and owncast are Fediverse alternatives to twitch. Peertube less so. I run an owncast server and love streaming to it, but discovery is shit. If you just want to stream, it’s great. If you want to make it a job, stick to twitch
Switching from Twitch to Kick is like leaving Twitter for Truth Social. Kick was started by people who were kicked off Twitch for gambling and other banned content. And I don’t just mean poker, I’m talking about those skin gambling sites where streamers were found “promoting” but really owned and were rigging their bets to make it look like you can win big.
Plus Kick’s backend uses the same Amazon services that Twitch does, so if your point is not to support Twitch and their parent company Amazon, Kick definitely isn’t the right choice.
Is there any eli5 guides to things like f-Droid or the other platforms(?) (it used to be called ‘rooting’, don’t know what it is now) to be able to install LibreTube? Following the faq link from github, I see 3 download options, one I recognize as f-Droid, and 2 others.
I realize this should be “android 101”, but my ability to problem solve stuff like this is slipping away from me. (protect your brain, kids!).
Most F-Droid stuff AFAIK should be pretty plug and play. It’ll download an APK which you then just open in order to install the app. You may need a file browser app if your phone OS doesn’t come with one. You may also need to allow installs from third party somewhere in the settings. But android isn’t like iOS and won’t generally restrict your ability to install whatever you want, outside of an options popup to make sure you know what you’re doing.
I don’t use LibreTube personally and can’t speak on that specifically though, if it does something other than just download you an APK file.
you dont need root for these things.
just download the fdroid apk from its website, open the apk (you probably need to allow installing third party apps in the settings, which come disabled by default these days), then search for libretube or newpipe inside fdroid after letting it download its app catalogue (it may seem confusing that fdroid seems empty at first, but you may just need to slide down to update and wait a second for it to download the catalogue).
Web Video Caster can cast to a large number of devices, Chromecast included. It has a lot of companion apps too on several smart TV platforms, all for the sake of getting your media played back on another device.
SkyTube Extra has Google Cast support, but make sure to download it from GitHub (e.g. through Obtainium). The F-Droid version doesn’t have the cast feature, because it depends on a proprietary Google library, which is not allowed on F-Droid.
Yeah, just OSS. Which is fine by me, frankly. In a capitalist system there are very few ways to make FOSS soft compete with closed source/proprietary. One way is to convince people to buy the soft. Another is to get industry funding. Blender is one of the best examples of this. But Grayjay can’t use the Blender model because the biggest player in the industry (Youtube) has a vested interest in keeping the app from being developed.
Grayjay and other Futo apps are not really paid software, it’s more like a donation. No reason not to use a FOSS license.
But Grayjay can’t use the Blender model because the biggest player in the industry (Youtube) has a vested interest in keeping the app from being developed.
What does that have to do with the licensing? The restrictive definitely won’t stop Google from trying to shut the app down. Selling the app actually makes it harder to prevent it from being shut down. Google can now argue in court that Futo tries to make money from selling this app, that uses the YouTube API without authorization.
There’s a very easy solution to this problem: Just make it FOSS like every other god damn alternative YouTube client, put the GPL on it and treat donations like donations, instead of “selling” the app and generating revenue (which can and likely will be used against them).
Rossmann and Futo have explicitly stated that purchasing their soft is a purchase, not a donation.
Exactly. That’s the issue. Selling software means generating revenue, thus Grayjay is a commercial product. That’s exactly what YouTube Vanced was shut down for. Generating revenue from accessing YouTube in an unauthorized manner. Grayjay does use the YouTube API, but not the official one. YouTube has 2 sets of APIs. The official one with clear terms and conditions, which is only accessible with an API token, and the unofficial one, which is for example used in the YouTube mobile app. There is no official documentation on this API, and it was only discovered through reverse engineering. YouTube doesn’t allow using this API from an unofficial client (they’re not that strict about it, but nonetheless, it’s technically forbidden, as the APi is not meant for public usage).
Unless they were to stick a TOS, usage agreement, or API key requirement on Innertube then anyone’s free to use it however they like. Legally, Grayjay is in the clear here. And practically they’re fine as well since altering Innertube to block Grayjay would mean that Google would have to alter their in house processes and that costs money.
I think the issue is that the more users these instances have, the easier it is for them to get throttled/banned by the services they want to use. I self host piped and it works 99% of the times
Also some services are frequently changing stuff or just making it impossible to have an alternative frontends
Same with all of these other frontends like invidious, teddit, rimgo, bibliogram,
This you?
Besides which… it’s well understood that all of these apps are brittle as in they stop working every other day when youtube changes whatever thing so they stop working.
In the case of newpipe for example, if you install from the app store or even f-droid the version there will be a few weeks old and just won’t work. The best approach is to install the apk and allow it to update itself when a new version is released. I’ve been using newpipe for several years in this manner and it’s very reliable.
Er go, if it doesn’t work for you, you’re doing it wrong.
I imagine you’re exaggerating but if not then I’d say that’s a tad extreme. That being said, their official setup guide does provide steps on how to install it but I think if I didn’t have prior experience with some of the software it mentions I think I’d struggle so maybe a different guide by someone else is better?
However these obviously require having something that this can be run on, like a VPS, which aren’t free, so that is another barrier for entry to consider.
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Libretube seems to almost never work for me no matter what instance i try.
Also worth adding Smarttube for AndroidTV
Try enabling “Use HLS” inside:
3 dots > Settings > Audio and video
See this.
Ads blocking and background playing to visit on youtube vanced apk
I’ll add these to the list if you don’t mind:
FreeTube on Android? Where do I find that?
I can’t seem to find it anymore :/
It’s in the IzzyOnDroid repo: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/io.freetubeapp.freetube
And you can also get it from GitHub through Obtainium
Thank you
FreeTube Cordova it is called
I think I’ve seen it on f-droid before
Grayjay is propertiary. Just giving a heads up
I thought it was FOSS? Here their GitHub. I’m not an expert in licenses and all that, but it looks like it has even been forked. You can’t even see proprietary, let alone fork it. I could be wrong, though. Correct me if I’m wrong, please.
It has a joke of a license that certainly isn’t free. It onky alpows you to see the source code aka it ia “source availible” not opwn source nor free
I see. I think Louis Rossmann (he works for Futo, the company behind this app and other FOSS apps) said in a video that they’ll eventually open source it? I don’t remember exactly.
Yup. And they still haven’t.
We need to hit him up about it on one of his videos. They do advocate for FOSS all the time. They even pay people create FOSS apps. Not sure why not this one.
I don’t like Louis enough to care enough sorry
FYI, SmartTubeNext has been renamed to just SmartTube.
Nice. Thanks for that. Let me fix my post.
Newpipe has to be the choice for android. Also, Tubular is a pretty neat fork that adds sponsorblock and return youtube dislike
This needs to be higher.
Thank you so much for this. I have been using NewPipe sponsorblock and it’s been discontinued and haven’t been able to find anything else.
Tubular is actually the successor to NewPipe x SponsorBlock. It’s made by the same developer.
Ah, makes sense why it’s a carbon copy of it. Glad they’re back at it. I’m curious to know why change to a new app.
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Wait, revanced works again?
Sure does. I’ve been using it for a few months.
Normal stopped a while ago but extended is working well
Regular ReVance works just fine. Installed it to my wife’s phone just earlier today.
I saw it had an update. For a little while it wasn’t working right so I swapped to extended and that’s been running fine.
It stopped working?
I have used it since vanced died and while it does occasionally break, all you usually need to do is download a new APK and repatch.
Yes! Installing the latest version of microG from ReVanced’s github and repatching the app did the trick when it stopped working a couple months ago
My god, I am in tears. Praise the lords of FOSS.
This was me when Invidious and Piped were being attacked by Youtube and Newpipe had a hiatus.
Tubular is a Newpipe fork with Sponsor Block integrated for anyone interested.
That’s a sweet icon pack
Ty, the pack ia called Arcticons if you want to test it.
If LibreTube is not working for you (the reader, not OP), enable HLS here:
3 dots > Settings > Audio and video > Use HLS
See this.
That’s what I remember doing when I set it up, is this due to differences in CDNs across continents?
From issue thread.
Still in development but Lighttube seems interesting and uses its own backend.
I know this is /c/android but semi related for desktop I’ve been using and loving Freetube for a good while now.
Make sure you go through all the settings though (like sponsorblock), I recommend base theme “catppuccin mocha” btw
NewPipe subscriptions can also be imported into Free tube to get it in sync with your phone subscriptions.
Be sure to use NewPipe with sponsor block (forked project). Although this had been giving me trouble and there’s another fork called Tubular that works great.
Anybody know if some of these platforms support streaming? I’ve been meaning to try out kick.com as well as a Twitch alternative but it’s still a business with proprietary solution.
Peertube and owncast are Fediverse alternatives to twitch. Peertube less so. I run an owncast server and love streaming to it, but discovery is shit. If you just want to stream, it’s great. If you want to make it a job, stick to twitch
Switching from Twitch to Kick is like leaving Twitter for Truth Social. Kick was started by people who were kicked off Twitch for gambling and other banned content. And I don’t just mean poker, I’m talking about those skin gambling sites where streamers were found “promoting” but really owned and were rigging their bets to make it look like you can win big.
Plus Kick’s backend uses the same Amazon services that Twitch does, so if your point is not to support Twitch and their parent company Amazon, Kick definitely isn’t the right choice.
Dang.
Using Tubular, which is a fork of newpipe with sponsorblock integration. It’s a bit buggy but I like not having to skip every sponsor
Is there any eli5 guides to things like f-Droid or the other platforms(?) (it used to be called ‘rooting’, don’t know what it is now) to be able to install LibreTube? Following the faq link from github, I see 3 download options, one I recognize as f-Droid, and 2 others.
I realize this should be “android 101”, but my ability to problem solve stuff like this is slipping away from me. (protect your brain, kids!).
Most F-Droid stuff AFAIK should be pretty plug and play. It’ll download an APK which you then just open in order to install the app. You may need a file browser app if your phone OS doesn’t come with one. You may also need to allow installs from third party somewhere in the settings. But android isn’t like iOS and won’t generally restrict your ability to install whatever you want, outside of an options popup to make sure you know what you’re doing.
I don’t use LibreTube personally and can’t speak on that specifically though, if it does something other than just download you an APK file.
you dont need root for these things. just download the fdroid apk from its website, open the apk (you probably need to allow installing third party apps in the settings, which come disabled by default these days), then search for libretube or newpipe inside fdroid after letting it download its app catalogue (it may seem confusing that fdroid seems empty at first, but you may just need to slide down to update and wait a second for it to download the catalogue).
All I want is an ad-free YouTube app that lets me cast on Chromecast directly.
So far nothing worked properly. Any ideas? I’m using a Pixel 4A.
I use WebVideoCaster on roku for this.
But I don’t have Roku
Web Video Caster can cast to a large number of devices, Chromecast included. It has a lot of companion apps too on several smart TV platforms, all for the sake of getting your media played back on another device.
SkyTube Extra has Google Cast support, but make sure to download it from GitHub (e.g. through Obtainium). The F-Droid version doesn’t have the cast feature, because it depends on a proprietary Google library, which is not allowed on F-Droid.
Grayjay, it has all those features.
Not FOSS
Yeah, just OSS. Which is fine by me, frankly. In a capitalist system there are very few ways to make FOSS soft compete with closed source/proprietary. One way is to convince people to buy the soft. Another is to get industry funding. Blender is one of the best examples of this. But Grayjay can’t use the Blender model because the biggest player in the industry (Youtube) has a vested interest in keeping the app from being developed.
Grayjay and other Futo apps are not really paid software, it’s more like a donation. No reason not to use a FOSS license.
What does that have to do with the licensing? The restrictive definitely won’t stop Google from trying to shut the app down. Selling the app actually makes it harder to prevent it from being shut down. Google can now argue in court that Futo tries to make money from selling this app, that uses the YouTube API without authorization.
There’s a very easy solution to this problem: Just make it FOSS like every other god damn alternative YouTube client, put the GPL on it and treat donations like donations, instead of “selling” the app and generating revenue (which can and likely will be used against them).
Rossmann and Futo have explicitly stated that purchasing their soft is a purchase, not a donation.
Furthermore, Grayjay does not use the Youtube API and so Google has no ground to stand on.
Exactly. That’s the issue. Selling software means generating revenue, thus Grayjay is a commercial product. That’s exactly what YouTube Vanced was shut down for. Generating revenue from accessing YouTube in an unauthorized manner. Grayjay does use the YouTube API, but not the official one. YouTube has 2 sets of APIs. The official one with clear terms and conditions, which is only accessible with an API token, and the unofficial one, which is for example used in the YouTube mobile app. There is no official documentation on this API, and it was only discovered through reverse engineering. YouTube doesn’t allow using this API from an unofficial client (they’re not that strict about it, but nonetheless, it’s technically forbidden, as the APi is not meant for public usage).
Unless they were to stick a TOS, usage agreement, or API key requirement on Innertube then anyone’s free to use it however they like. Legally, Grayjay is in the clear here. And practically they’re fine as well since altering Innertube to block Grayjay would mean that Google would have to alter their in house processes and that costs money.
I’ll give it a shot
GrayJay doesn’t cast to Chromecast, it uses F-Cast instead which isn’t on every platform.
Well I was able to cast on Chromecast. But it was a little unstable.
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Doesn’t ReVanced work?
Revanced casting doesn’t work for me
SkyTube Extra has Cast support
I’ve never had problems with it
SkyTube Extra has Cast support
I tried, it worked locally but I couldn’t cast on Chromecast
SkyTube Extra has Cast support
LibreTube is OP but Piped is a joke. Disable that shit.
What’s the issue with piped?
…it doesn’t work. Like, ever. Same with all of these other frontends like invidious, teddit, rimgo, bibliogram, etc.
I think the issue is that the more users these instances have, the easier it is for them to get throttled/banned by the services they want to use. I self host piped and it works 99% of the times
Also some services are frequently changing stuff or just making it impossible to have an alternative frontends
Doing it wrong.
I didn’t do anything but install the app…
Nome of the frontends you mentioned have apps.
Bruh. LibreTube? The app this thread was about? Hello?
This you?
Besides which… it’s well understood that all of these apps are brittle as in they stop working every other day when youtube changes whatever thing so they stop working.
In the case of newpipe for example, if you install from the app store or even f-droid the version there will be a few weeks old and just won’t work. The best approach is to install the apk and allow it to update itself when a new version is released. I’ve been using newpipe for several years in this manner and it’s very reliable.
Er go, if it doesn’t work for you, you’re doing it wrong.
Because it is not a pipe
Honestly where’s my pipe, this is false advertising
Just find a good instance like piped.adminforge.de or host your own
You mean the default instance? Yeah, doesn’t work.
Sure, I’ll just pop over to the local university and pick up my software engineering degree.
I imagine you’re exaggerating but if not then I’d say that’s a tad extreme. That being said, their official setup guide does provide steps on how to install it but I think if I didn’t have prior experience with some of the software it mentions I think I’d struggle so maybe a different guide by someone else is better?
However these obviously require having something that this can be run on, like a VPS, which aren’t free, so that is another barrier for entry to consider.
Do you think normal people understand the words on this page?
No, which I mentioned in my comment.
Tubular: A fork of NewPipe (Github) that implements SponsorBlock (Github) and ReturnYouTubeDislike (Github). https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular?tab=readme-ov-file#a-fork-of-newpipe-github-that-implements-sponsorblock-github-and-returnyoutubedislike-github