I was going to dispute his bullshit but then I found this gem:
And it would generate in the style of that, all consistent with the artistry, you know, the style, the intent of the artist. And so all of that is done for the artist, so that they can create something that is more beautiful, but still in the style that they want.
Dude is literally saying AI will do a better job at creating art than the artist. Talk about being tone-deaf. The future of artistry isn’t a fucking etch a sketch and prompt engineering you fucking donkey.
Ground truth is real data that’s been verified to be correct. Eg a bunch a images that are labeled “hot dog” or “not hot dog”. This is a common AI industry term.
Structured data just means that it’s in a consistent machine-readable format that programs can easily interact with. This is just a common computer science term.
Guided means that it’s not operating from nothing, the process is being influenced or constrained by something.
Taken together it means that they’re taking input data (probably the existing artwork), converting it into a structured data format that’s easier to work with, then that’s used to augment or restrict the AI process to move in the right direction or not go off the rails.
I say it’s misleading because this is something that was fairly obvious to everyone looking at it, even if they didn’t know that terminology. What their model is producing is obviously influenced by and recognizable as a modified version of the original. Even if the overall outcome is lacking.
I think they’re saying that it’s not generating slop from nothing. They take the artist’s “structure data” as a “ground truth” and the generation is “guided” to generate slop that won’t deviate too far from the original?
The future of artistry isn’t a fucking etch a sketch and prompt engineering you fucking donkey.
Definitely not the future of art, but it could be the future of the media business. These greedy suits don’t care about “artistry” and will do anything to save money on labor costs. Unless, of course, people continue to push back hard against the ensloppification of everything we love.
We hate AI, but to be honest we don’t have it nearly enough…
I have no illusions about managers and executives, who have never worked for a living, salivating over the cost cutting opportunity. I was talking more from the perspective of the artist. I doubt any artist would consider this as actual art because it’s the most soulless way of creating art. It’s the rough equivalent of writing about what you’d want to draw instead of actually drawing it.
There’s a few of them. Notably, the guy who didn’t care that AI art is built on the back of copyright violations getting pissy about his AI-generated art not being eligible for copyright.
But more importantly here, I don’t think most artists in the gaming industry are in much of a position where they can stand by their artistic integrity. If every publisher pushes studios into using AI to be more “productive”, the choice becomes between slopping or starving—and most people don’t like starving.
We as consumers are the only ones that can afford to push back against this shit. Our survival doesn’t rely on buying DLSS 5 games so we have the ability to boycott them to send a message.
The entire situation is pretty dire because I fear there’s a critical mass of consumers who don’t give a shit or even like the slop filter. And for artists it’s even worse because I agree, most of them probably won’t get a say in the matter and they get stuck doing soulless work. But I also think we’re going to artists either move into the indie scene or completely exit the industry (either by force as people get laid off to put more soulless work on a single individual or by attrition where the wages get reduced because “your work is now mostly done by AI”).
My light at the end of the tunnel is the hope that we’re just going to get more and more small and/or independent studios doing their own thing and having the creative control to tell Huang to shove his slop filter up his ass. The trend is already going that way with some of the best games of recent years coming from smaller studios while the traditional AAA struggles to find a footing.
A prompt driven etch-a-sketch would actually be awesome, and I think it could be built with a Raspberry Pi Zero 2W and a couple of stepper motors, so pretty cheap.
Excluding the ethics of using AI models that does sound like a cool side project to tinker with. But I meant kinda the opposite of what you imagined. I meant you create a sketch or a rough draft of what you’re imagining and then spend the rest of the time prompting AI to make it into the final image.
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I was going to dispute his bullshit but then I found this gem:
Dude is literally saying AI will do a better job at creating art than the artist. Talk about being tone-deaf. The future of artistry isn’t a fucking etch a sketch and prompt engineering you fucking donkey.
I prefer this quote
Nobody knows what it means, but it’s provocative
I know what it means, but it is using jargon to say something simple to mislead people
What does it mean? To me it’s like words pulled randomly out of a hat. (i.e. the emperor has no clothes on.)
Ground truth is real data that’s been verified to be correct. Eg a bunch a images that are labeled “hot dog” or “not hot dog”. This is a common AI industry term.
Structured data just means that it’s in a consistent machine-readable format that programs can easily interact with. This is just a common computer science term.
Guided means that it’s not operating from nothing, the process is being influenced or constrained by something.
Taken together it means that they’re taking input data (probably the existing artwork), converting it into a structured data format that’s easier to work with, then that’s used to augment or restrict the AI process to move in the right direction or not go off the rails.
I say it’s misleading because this is something that was fairly obvious to everyone looking at it, even if they didn’t know that terminology. What their model is producing is obviously influenced by and recognizable as a modified version of the original. Even if the overall outcome is lacking.
I think they’re saying that it’s not generating slop from nothing. They take the artist’s “structure data” as a “ground truth” and the generation is “guided” to generate slop that won’t deviate too far from the original?
It gets the people going
I’m definitely in my zone.
Definitely not the future of art, but it could be the future of the media business. These greedy suits don’t care about “artistry” and will do anything to save money on labor costs. Unless, of course, people continue to push back hard against the ensloppification of everything we love.
We hate AI, but to be honest we don’t have it nearly enough…
I have no illusions about managers and executives, who have never worked for a living, salivating over the cost cutting opportunity. I was talking more from the perspective of the artist. I doubt any artist would consider this as actual art because it’s the most soulless way of creating art. It’s the rough equivalent of writing about what you’d want to draw instead of actually drawing it.
There’s a few of them. Notably, the guy who didn’t care that AI art is built on the back of copyright violations getting pissy about his AI-generated art not being eligible for copyright.
But more importantly here, I don’t think most artists in the gaming industry are in much of a position where they can stand by their artistic integrity. If every publisher pushes studios into using AI to be more “productive”, the choice becomes between slopping or starving—and most people don’t like starving.
We as consumers are the only ones that can afford to push back against this shit. Our survival doesn’t rely on buying DLSS 5 games so we have the ability to boycott them to send a message.
The entire situation is pretty dire because I fear there’s a critical mass of consumers who don’t give a shit or even like the slop filter. And for artists it’s even worse because I agree, most of them probably won’t get a say in the matter and they get stuck doing soulless work. But I also think we’re going to artists either move into the indie scene or completely exit the industry (either by force as people get laid off to put more soulless work on a single individual or by attrition where the wages get reduced because “your work is now mostly done by AI”).
My light at the end of the tunnel is the hope that we’re just going to get more and more small and/or independent studios doing their own thing and having the creative control to tell Huang to shove his slop filter up his ass. The trend is already going that way with some of the best games of recent years coming from smaller studios while the traditional AAA struggles to find a footing.
Thoughts on the drawing ai tools https://odysee.com/@grockster:b/even-better-real-time-render-and-inpaint:b
A prompt driven etch-a-sketch would actually be awesome, and I think it could be built with a Raspberry Pi Zero 2W and a couple of stepper motors, so pretty cheap.
Excluding the ethics of using AI models that does sound like a cool side project to tinker with. But I meant kinda the opposite of what you imagined. I meant you create a sketch or a rough draft of what you’re imagining and then spend the rest of the time prompting AI to make it into the final image.
Lol etch a sketch is great