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It’s also a big risk, as they could always enshittify. It’s a good platform now, but if Gabe dies or decides to give up his leadership position, that could all change very quickly.

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Yeah, the day Gabe leaves is going to be a sad day for gaming, because Steam is probably gonna get real shitty real quick. I’m sure some finance-minded jackasses will do their best to maximize short-term profit and fly the whole ecosystem into the ground at Mach 3.

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As long as it remains privately owned, it should be OK. The day shares go public, god forbid, will be the beginning of the end.

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Thats not true. Privately owned firms tend to be really bad because they don’t have a feduciary duty to long term value. They suck everything dry. Private equity is the reason why daycare costs so much yet the daycare workers make minimum wage.

Steam just happens to be fine under private ownership because it makes enough profit for Gabe to be satisfied.

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Thats PE firms, not the same as private owned companies. THERE WAS only one istance of a hybrid of PE and private owned sitaution, SEARS.

Kairos
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How exactly are they different?

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I assume they mean private equity vs privately owned. Private equity would mean you have to bow to your investor since they are paying you. Privately owners make their own decisions without needing to answer to an investor

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Gross oversimplification of Private vs Public. We are really taking about three kinds of ownership models, if arguing in good faith.

  1. The people that are invested in the company, usually the people that built it, are at the helm.

  2. The people that built it took a payout from Private Equity who now have ownership stake, and who now set the growth agenda.

  3. The compant is now public, and given to the irrational whims if the ENTIRE marketplace, while at the same time primarily being at the whims of the board and the largest few investor stakeholders.

Steam has largely existed exclusively in the first category. So have most of the oldest businesses in the planet, which are often family-owned and maintained operations across generations.

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Privately owned firms tend to be really bad because they don’t have a feduciary duty to long term value.

Neither do publicly traded companies. All they are required to do is make money for shareholders, and most of them push for short-term value

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The profits are taken away from the trading price, yes

Although it still helps the long term price

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Privately owned is not the same thing as private equity. https://irely.com/private-equity-or-privately-owned-does-it-matter/

Kairos
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The first sentence

When you choose a software vendor, do you question how the company is financed? Should that be part of your evaluation?

This article seems to be about the ethos of private equity. Legally they’re nearly identical.

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Well done missing the point.

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Holy fucking shit Lemmy is becoming like Reddit. Can you guys learn to think please. This whole thing stated because I replied to this message

As long as it remains privately owned, it should be OK. The day shares go public, god forbid, will be the beginning of the end.

With something “that’s not true because private equity is bad and that’s still privately owned” and you all act like I said that all private ownership is identical to private equity.

This is a very plausable thing that can happen to Steam. Doesn’t Gabe not have kids?

Like what the fuck?? Am I going insane? Am I dreaming?

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Am I going insane?

I’m not ruling it out ;⁠)

Getting bought out by a private equity firm would be pretty dire for them as that never ends well, but that’s not what I was talking about and I thought that was pretty clear, but you responded as though it was. ‘Legally’ they may be the same, but they’re functionally very different, as the article I linked pointed out, but you chose to keep digging.

Whatever. You’re right. Have a cookie.

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Private equity is commonly referring to “owned by a private equity fund” like Blackrock. It often involves extracting unhealthy amount of short term profit to make the numbers look better then sell the business so they can record a profit.

Kairos
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Yeah?..

Caveman
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… and Gabe N owns more than 50% so it’s not really the same as owned by Blackrock. It’s still a founder owned and operated company.

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Sure, legally yes.

In practice, a lot of the time, not even close.

Kairos
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Yes that’s what I said.

AwesomeLowlander
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Privately owned firms tend to be really bad because they don’t have a feduciary duty to long term value

You say that as if publicly traded firms do

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