I won’t support any store that sabotages Linux on purpose. Just earlier today I read a lame excuse for them to not support Linux with Fortnite despite only needing to click a single checkbox. Of course, it’s easy not getting tempted since I don’t have a windos system to begin with.
I’ll remind you that Steam needs SOME competition in order to actually get better, and I can’t think of anyone else able to do it (Microsoft has kinda already tried and failed). Remember when Steam suddenly addressed long-standing issues with the client and storefront a couple years ago? That was because the EGS appeared.
I’ll also remind young folks that the Internet was extremely negative regarding steam when it was new. Yes, I’ve been on Steam for 20+ years.
Also a bad take. Competition is good, and a proper competitor to steam would benefit us all, but users don’t have to support them just on the basis of them being competitors.
I agree “EGS is bad because I want only steam” is silly, but if it’s a worse experience for the individual user or if they perceive it’s involved in non consumer friendly practices, it’s perfectly normal they are not supported.
Games that are sold on GOG are usually also DRM free on steam. Sometimes the steamworks DRM is required, but that’s so easy to trick that the games can still be considered DRM free.
The only thing GOG does is pre-filtering for DRM free only.
GOG still has that niche of the “old games.” Can’t think of anywhere else I could get DOS games from my childhood that also come with patches and updates to make them work on modern systems.
Except that Valve revamped Steam loads of times before anyone else was even competing with them. The biggest was when The Orange Box launched and they had added better Friends support as well as literally all the community features and achievement systems. EGS didn’t launch until 2018. Origin didn’t launch until 2011.
I’ve seen this posted before, but how does that make their stats look good? Oh you’ve got X million users! And how much money did you make? Oh. So how many of your users have ever paid you any money? Oh.
I assume their logic is to give you free games so you get into the habit of looking at their storefront and going to their launcher to play your games in the hope that you’ll start buying your games from there instead. I can’t see how claiming the freebies but never giving them money helps them.
Its not about the sales at that point (obviously), its about bolstering the user base. Everything boils down to advertising these days. The more people they have registered on their platform, the wider advertising audience.
We found out in the Apple lawsuit that the games are fixed price for Epic, so you can download or not as you wish - individually you do not make their cost go up.
not support Linux with Fortnite despite only needing to click a single checkbox
I’d love to see that, because my understanding is that the anticheat software that fortnite and others use requires pretty deep access to your system that linux either can’t or won’t give them
It’s more than clicking a single box when they build. They will have to provide support for Linux systems, that’s the real kicker. Also their anti cheat might not like Linux.
Not saying they shouldn’t, it’s ridiculous that they don’t support Linux. But there are valid reasons.
No no, you don’t get it. Windows has problems, but switching to Linux would be like leaving your home country because you don’t like its political trends. Where’s your OS patriotism? There’s no need for Linux, because you can just keep using Windows and hope Microsoft ends up doing what’s best for their customers products :)
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I won’t support any store that sabotages Linux on purpose. Just earlier today I read a lame excuse for them to not support Linux with Fortnite despite only needing to click a single checkbox. Of course, it’s easy not getting tempted since I don’t have a windos system to begin with.
Bad take.
I’ll remind you that Steam needs SOME competition in order to actually get better, and I can’t think of anyone else able to do it (Microsoft has kinda already tried and failed). Remember when Steam suddenly addressed long-standing issues with the client and storefront a couple years ago? That was because the EGS appeared.
I’ll also remind young folks that the Internet was extremely negative regarding steam when it was new. Yes, I’ve been on Steam for 20+ years.
Tldr: EGS is fine. Relax.
Edit: clarity
Also a bad take. Competition is good, and a proper competitor to steam would benefit us all, but users don’t have to support them just on the basis of them being competitors.
I agree “EGS is bad because I want only steam” is silly, but if it’s a worse experience for the individual user or if they perceive it’s involved in non consumer friendly practices, it’s perfectly normal they are not supported.
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I fully support a good competitor to Steam like GOG. It may be less convenient than Steam but it has one key feature that no other shop has: no DRM.
Games that are sold on GOG are usually also DRM free on steam. Sometimes the steamworks DRM is required, but that’s so easy to trick that the games can still be considered DRM free.
The only thing GOG does is pre-filtering for DRM free only.
Do not rely on that.
Case in point: Arkham City.
This is the best way forward. If GOG had more games it would change the industry. More companies need to partner with them.
GOG still has that niche of the “old games.” Can’t think of anywhere else I could get DOS games from my childhood that also come with patches and updates to make them work on modern systems.
Except that Valve revamped Steam loads of times before anyone else was even competing with them. The biggest was when The Orange Box launched and they had added better Friends support as well as literally all the community features and achievement systems. EGS didn’t launch until 2018. Origin didn’t launch until 2011.
You aren’t supporting them by accepting free games and then not using them. It costs them money to give them to you.
Not entirely true. You’re giving them users and downloads to pad their stats.
I’ve seen this posted before, but how does that make their stats look good? Oh you’ve got X million users! And how much money did you make? Oh. So how many of your users have ever paid you any money? Oh.
I assume their logic is to give you free games so you get into the habit of looking at their storefront and going to their launcher to play your games in the hope that you’ll start buying your games from there instead. I can’t see how claiming the freebies but never giving them money helps them.
Go tell any ad company that you have a website with X million weekly users, and they will suck your dick to place their ads there.
Do Epic advertise anything other than their own games on their store?
Its not about the sales at that point (obviously), its about bolstering the user base. Everything boils down to advertising these days. The more people they have registered on their platform, the wider advertising audience.
Do Epic advertise anything other than their own games on their store?
We found out in the Apple lawsuit that the games are fixed price for Epic, so you can download or not as you wish - individually you do not make their cost go up.
Ahh!I didn’t know that. Thanks for the correction.
I’ll never forgive them buying Rocket League and cutting Linux support. It used to have a native Linux version.
I’d love to see that, because my understanding is that the anticheat software that fortnite and others use requires pretty deep access to your system that linux either can’t or won’t give them
Yes they use kernel level anticheat and they are correct it would be easier to cheat on Linux.
any idea where commentOP got their notion that supporting linux would involve “only needing to click a single checkbox”?
EAC does support Linux and can be enabled. It just isn’t as secure.
Other posts about this topic have similar claims. No idea who started the idea, but it gets mentioned a lot that ticking a box is all that’s required
The narrative that they’re just lazy.
It’s more than clicking a single box when they build. They will have to provide support for Linux systems, that’s the real kicker. Also their anti cheat might not like Linux.
Not saying they shouldn’t, it’s ridiculous that they don’t support Linux. But there are valid reasons.
No no, you don’t get it. Windows has problems, but switching to Linux would be like leaving your home country because you don’t like its political trends. Where’s your OS patriotism? There’s no need for Linux, because you can just keep using Windows and hope Microsoft ends up doing what’s best for their
customersproducts :)I’m paraphrasing here, but that’s an actual thing the CEO and founder of Epic Games posted on Twitter: https://nitter.net/timsweeneyepic/status/964284402741149698
That’s disguting on so many levels. Thanks for that bit of knowledge.