In a new interview with IGN, Larian Studios boss Swen Vincke responded to questions about Baldur's Gate 3 being on Xbox Game Pass, explaining why the best RPG of 2023 won't be on Microsoft's subscription service anytime soon.
game pass is for forever alphas and betas. but people keep slurping down the shit because “i get to try it before i buy it” when they already are paying a subscription for unfinished games.
it goes without saying the developers of BG3 think better of their work and themselves than to whore out to shame pass.
Describing it as a “sensitive question,” Vincke pointed out that Larian Studios is in the business of “making a game that has a beginning, middle, and an end.” He also touted Baldur’s Gate 3’s lack of microtransactions, which has been praised in some quarters.
Yeh its not sensitive question people are beating around the bush. Good Games dont belong in the trash bin of game pass. BG3 is not for game pass. Why. Do. You. Think. That. They Wont Go To glorious Game Pass? ill tell you. Integrity and its a full game. it has no place in the dumpster with halo infinity
Hey, if you don’t see any issues. more power to you I’m glad you find their service of value. I just find Games as a Service inherently flawed and something the industry has already abused to a crippling degree.
Gamepass a service that lets you play games, but GaaS generally refers to stuff like Roblox and Fortnite–individual games that act as a platform to sell you things from. That’s where the flaws are. I’m struggling to see the flaw with GP except for the inherent flaws with paying for a revokable license to download games in the first place. At least GP doesn’t lie about you owning the games that you’re playing like “buying” them from the xbox store does.
I mean, is Netflix flawed for offering movies as a service? You pay a monthly fee to be able to watch a wide variety of shows and movies, but you don’t own any of it. It’s literally exactly the same thing except for the type of media they offer.
that’s the neat part, i don’t have netflix either. services that exist from content that once was and is obtainable. i don’t see the value in movie, video game, or tv subscriptions,
The value is that you get to experience more stuff for less money. There’s literally a dollar amount of value there. I paid $500 to play X number of games instead of $>500 to play X number of games. If you don’t consume any media at all, then obviously it isn’t worth it, but don’t act like it isn’t worth it to people who do consume any kind of media at all. Not all of us spend our days looking at trees or replaying the same Mario game or whatever you do for fun.
Well, for one, Gamepass isn’t GaaS, it’s a subscription service. And most of the games in their collection are also not GaaS games, to be clear. Second, that wasn’t your initial, hyperbolic point, which was that “shame pass” is a ripoff because it only provides incomplete games (which is also not true).
If you don’t like it, you do you, but don’t make shit up about something just because.
i really don’t like it, i didn’t make up shit about it. i made an observation. You clearly see value in GaaS because you are subscribing to the…Service of Game Pass with your subscription.
What specifically did i make up? and lets not make it a hearsay argument. you see value so you’re going to point to that i don’t see value and im going to point to that. But hey you do you though, and you do, indeed do you, i see that. How long have you been paying for game pass?
This has nothing to do with what “value” either of us see in the product. What you said is simply wrong and I’ve already explained why. That you refuse to accept that really just points to your desire to promote misinformation. However, I don’t need to convince you of anything and I’m not going waste my time repeating myself endlessly.
saying something is simply wrong isn’t proof. its a take, its an opinion. and you’ve been listening to hasan piker and reddit for too long if you all you care about is articles and peer review.
desire to promote misinformation. bruh. this isnt trump 2024 this gaming is a hobby. and it if you cant stand what other people consider of the services you use. thats a you issue
have you tried just using those services? you’re here and not there, you paid for that.
My buddy and I split the cost, and have basically since it started six years ago, so we’ve spent a collective ~500 dollars each on it. Lemme do some math to see if it’s been worth it. Add up the current, non-sale price of Nier Automata, Hellblade, Phoenix Point, Project Wingman, Grounded, Solasta, Persona 5, Gears of War 1, 2, and 3, The Talos Principle, Hi-Fi Rush, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Outriders, The Outer Wilds and The Outer Worlds. There are more, but these add up to well over what we’ve spent on the service. It also saved us $70 when we realized that Starfield wasn’t worth paying money for.
stop what. lost what? this isn’t a competition you nard. you look dumb as rocks standing on the side line casting your mouth breathing comment into the lake. Try and provide productive value to a conversation, not whatever you are doing.
what did i lose? game pass? cant miss what i don’t have. good job, say another braindead comment im sure everyone here is delighted to have you with us
The main benefit GOG provides is their installers, which you can backup yourself. DRM-free Steam games don’t, so you’d need to package up the files yourself (usually all in the steam directory).
That’s not a huge advantage imo, so I generally take the convenience of Steam over GOG, especially since I use Linux and GOG hasn’t bothered to port their client to my platform. Regardless, DRM-free is better.
I use lutris to manage my games, which is decently integrated with GOG. I ended up installing Galaxy for Baldur’s Gate 3 because of the frequency of updates, but I mostly use the installers directly.
I prefer to buy from platforms that actively support me instead of leaving it to the community. Valve invests a lot of time and money into improving Proton/WINE, and they build in useful features like controller configuration into their platform.
If GOG supported Galaxy on Linux, I’d probably buy more from them. But they don’t, and I have a Steam Deck, so I prefer Steam.
I mean MS would have to shell out bookoo bucks for this to come to GamePass anytime soon. Probably a year or two down the line. Regardless Larian isn’t going to say they’re putting it on GP as it would slow down sales on the platform during the holidays.
Huh. Well yeah I never knew that either, growing up in the South that was a pretty common saying with a similar spelling to how I wrote it originally(being the south the misspelling makes total sense now haha). Nice to know where it comes from though. Thanks for the info!
“Bookoo”, derived from the French Bucchane, for smoked meat; this is also the origin of the word “buccaneer”, as they generally live in it while at sea.
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Thought it was weird to release brand new games straight to gamepass to begin with
game pass is for forever alphas and betas. but people keep slurping down the shit because “i get to try it before i buy it” when they already are paying a subscription for unfinished games.
it goes without saying the developers of BG3 think better of their work and themselves than to whore out to shame pass.
Brain dead take
Yeh its not sensitive question people are beating around the bush. Good Games dont belong in the trash bin of game pass. BG3 is not for game pass. Why. Do. You. Think. That. They Wont Go To glorious Game Pass? ill tell you. Integrity and its a full game. it has no place in the dumpster with halo infinity
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Incapable
Game Pass rubs your tummy when the bad men go away?
brain dead comment :/
What are you even talking about? As far as I can tell, the vast majority of the games provided are complete, and also a lot of them a frankly great.
Hey, if you don’t see any issues. more power to you I’m glad you find their service of value. I just find Games as a Service inherently flawed and something the industry has already abused to a crippling degree.
Gamepass a service that lets you play games, but GaaS generally refers to stuff like Roblox and Fortnite–individual games that act as a platform to sell you things from. That’s where the flaws are. I’m struggling to see the flaw with GP except for the inherent flaws with paying for a revokable license to download games in the first place. At least GP doesn’t lie about you owning the games that you’re playing like “buying” them from the xbox store does.
I mean, is Netflix flawed for offering movies as a service? You pay a monthly fee to be able to watch a wide variety of shows and movies, but you don’t own any of it. It’s literally exactly the same thing except for the type of media they offer.
that’s the neat part, i don’t have netflix either. services that exist from content that once was and is obtainable. i don’t see the value in movie, video game, or tv subscriptions,
The value is that you get to experience more stuff for less money. There’s literally a dollar amount of value there. I paid $500 to play X number of games instead of $>500 to play X number of games. If you don’t consume any media at all, then obviously it isn’t worth it, but don’t act like it isn’t worth it to people who do consume any kind of media at all. Not all of us spend our days looking at trees or replaying the same Mario game or whatever you do for fun.
Well, for one, Gamepass isn’t GaaS, it’s a subscription service. And most of the games in their collection are also not GaaS games, to be clear. Second, that wasn’t your initial, hyperbolic point, which was that “shame pass” is a ripoff because it only provides incomplete games (which is also not true).
If you don’t like it, you do you, but don’t make shit up about something just because.
i really don’t like it, i didn’t make up shit about it. i made an observation. You clearly see value in GaaS because you are subscribing to the…Service of Game Pass with your subscription.
What specifically did i make up? and lets not make it a hearsay argument. you see value so you’re going to point to that i don’t see value and im going to point to that. But hey you do you though, and you do, indeed do you, i see that. How long have you been paying for game pass?
This has nothing to do with what “value” either of us see in the product. What you said is simply wrong and I’ve already explained why. That you refuse to accept that really just points to your desire to promote misinformation. However, I don’t need to convince you of anything and I’m not going waste my time repeating myself endlessly.
saying something is simply wrong isn’t proof. its a take, its an opinion. and you’ve been listening to hasan piker and reddit for too long if you all you care about is articles and peer review.
Based af
desire to promote misinformation. bruh. this isnt trump 2024 this gaming is a hobby. and it if you cant stand what other people consider of the services you use. thats a you issue
have you tried just using those services? you’re here and not there, you paid for that.
i don’t find value in the service. j don’t need you to accept that either.
you refuse to accept the other take. which is equally true.
there is nothing to be right about here. game pass is valuable to you and not me.
you keep paying for games you don’t own. ownership is at stake
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you first :D what a waste of keyboard presses , nephew
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cuz
My buddy and I split the cost, and have basically since it started six years ago, so we’ve spent a collective ~500 dollars each on it. Lemme do some math to see if it’s been worth it. Add up the current, non-sale price of Nier Automata, Hellblade, Phoenix Point, Project Wingman, Grounded, Solasta, Persona 5, Gears of War 1, 2, and 3, The Talos Principle, Hi-Fi Rush, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Outriders, The Outer Wilds and The Outer Worlds. There are more, but these add up to well over what we’ve spent on the service. It also saved us $70 when we realized that Starfield wasn’t worth paying money for.
spent $500, Non sale launch price for comparison of games, saved $70 on starfield.
yeah, i just don’t see why anyone would do that. But you and your buddy do, so hey, have fun.
Lol just stop man, you’ve lost this argument. Every subsequent comment has only made you look dumber.
lost an argument that hasn’t begun no points made and no proof offered.
you should try thinking for yourself before regurgitating buzz words you found online
just stop man, you’ve lost this argument.
see in can type letters into words too.
stop what. lost what? this isn’t a competition you nard. you look dumb as rocks standing on the side line casting your mouth breathing comment into the lake. Try and provide productive value to a conversation, not whatever you are doing.
what did i lose? game pass? cant miss what i don’t have. good job, say another braindead comment im sure everyone here is delighted to have you with us
Acceptable. It is a game worth owning outright in itself.
“Owning.” Unless you purchased a physical copy.
It launches without Steam running. Steam is required to download it but otherwise it’s DRM free.
Laughs in GOG
The main benefit GOG provides is their installers, which you can backup yourself. DRM-free Steam games don’t, so you’d need to package up the files yourself (usually all in the steam directory).
That’s not a huge advantage imo, so I generally take the convenience of Steam over GOG, especially since I use Linux and GOG hasn’t bothered to port their client to my platform. Regardless, DRM-free is better.
I use lutris to manage my games, which is decently integrated with GOG. I ended up installing Galaxy for Baldur’s Gate 3 because of the frequency of updates, but I mostly use the installers directly.
That’s fair.
I prefer to buy from platforms that actively support me instead of leaving it to the community. Valve invests a lot of time and money into improving Proton/WINE, and they build in useful features like controller configuration into their platform.
If GOG supported Galaxy on Linux, I’d probably buy more from them. But they don’t, and I have a Steam Deck, so I prefer Steam.
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Makes sense, I love GamePass for titles without significant replay value anything else is a value-add. BG3 is hugely replayable.
Good. Fuck subscriptions.
I mean MS would have to shell out bookoo bucks for this to come to GamePass anytime soon. Probably a year or two down the line. Regardless Larian isn’t going to say they’re putting it on GP as it would slow down sales on the platform during the holidays.
what is a ’ bookoo buck ’ ?
beaucoup?
Bone apple tea.
It’s an American saying, basically meaning a lot of money in this case. You can use bookoo to mean a lot of any thing really.
No, it’s a French weird, beaucoup, that has made its way to English vernacular. For example, “merci beaucoup” means “thanks a lot.”
Either the OP doesn’t know that, or didn’t bother actually looking up the spelling.
Huh. Well yeah I never knew that either, growing up in the South that was a pretty common saying with a similar spelling to how I wrote it originally(being the south the misspelling makes total sense now haha). Nice to know where it comes from though. Thanks for the info!
“Bookoo”, derived from the French Bucchane, for smoked meat; this is also the origin of the word “buccaneer”, as they generally live in it while at sea.
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