I remeber Moto E 1st Gen with Snapdragon 200, 1GB RAM ,4 GB (2.1 GB usable) Storage.
I have played games on it in 2017 it was some COD AW clone.
I could install alot of Apps on just 2.1GB storage.
No hang and good multi tasking on 1GB RAM.
Again I got a SD 625 + 4GB RAM and it is awesome.
I remeber thinking 4GB in phone will be max forever as 8GB in PC/Laptop was good enough for gaming and 16GB in PC for browsing ain’t enough.
Now in 2026 6GB in Android is considered low-end and Apps crash.
Again I got a Snapdragon 7s Gen 2 + 8GB RAM.
Devs please stop making apps big, CPU/RAM heavy. Apps like Facebook/Instagram should be shamed they are 1GB each.
Android OS has no limit on cache.
Android OS has no native user-frienly option to control which apps can run in background.
Phone/SoC reviews are a scam, they say SD 363 is 50% better than SD 625. I don’t think it is a very big leak from SD625 to 7s Gen 2.
Reviewers are stuck in 2013, “casual games run OK and COD runs at 60 FPS”, it always did for every phone!
sounds like you’re running your phones stock, with all the google spyware running in the background, along with the facebook crap; that shit ain’t just hanging back, dormant until you need it. that’s why you need the extra speed and RAM and storage, all that shit is constantly rummaging around the phone and sending stuff home.
get an ex-flagship with e.g. SDM8xx that has lineageOS support for like $50 and play around, you’ll find that no part of that thing is slow.
We hit a plateau around 2020. Watch Apple’s keynotes when they compare performance to the “competition.” You’ll notice they never specify what, exactly. It’s fine when they compare to their own past generations, but they never give solid numbers, they just throw ballpark figures out. When they bust out the charts, they don’t tell you what they’re comparing with. (Android keynotes, the ones I’ve watched from Google and Samsung, tend to focus more on features, since they’re selling phones and software — Google buys their chips and Samsung does as well in addition to making chips for others.)
I have an iPhone from 2024 (16 Pro Max, so the top model, and now the second-most powerful model) and a Galaxy S10 from 2019. The S10 is still better at a few things, and hardly a bad phone in any regard (except, it’s not being used as a phone, it has no cell service, it’s just a WiFi device at this point).
Shitty apps are going to continue to bloat. They do on iOS as well. Only, we can’t delete cache. You have to uninstall and reinstall. It’s kinda shit in that regard (and others, to be fair).
The key isn’t to avoid the top phones, it’s to stop buying the latest top phone. Buy one from a year or two ago. iPhones lose half their value every year. It’s worse for Android. Of course, those are the values from the manufacturers. You always get more selling privately. But when the new ones come out, people are looking to sell their old ones. Give them a fair deal and get a phone for a fraction of what it cost new. Also, a used phone purchase is not a new phone purchased, so it hurts their numbers (I mean, instead of the seller selling to the manufacturer and you both buy new phones, you buy from the seller and the seller buys a new phone, so it’s 1 new sale instead of 2).
I haven’t spent more than €350 on a smartphone ever. There is absolutely no need. All I do with it is browse Lemmy and do some messaging, a potato could handle that. When I see all these new foldable phones or SoCs that can run an LLM by itself on 16GB RAM, I ask myself why would I even want that. I’m content with my Moto 50 edge neo. Mid-range SoC, plenty of RAM, 512GB ROM. There’s no way I’ll ever need more.
Plus it does Dolby Atmos, HDR, WiFi 6, gets plenty of updates, decent battery life and as close to stock Android as you could hope for these days.
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sounds like you’re running your phones stock, with all the google spyware running in the background, along with the facebook crap; that shit ain’t just hanging back, dormant until you need it. that’s why you need the extra speed and RAM and storage, all that shit is constantly rummaging around the phone and sending stuff home.
get an ex-flagship with e.g. SDM8xx that has lineageOS support for like $50 and play around, you’ll find that no part of that thing is slow.
We hit a plateau around 2020. Watch Apple’s keynotes when they compare performance to the “competition.” You’ll notice they never specify what, exactly. It’s fine when they compare to their own past generations, but they never give solid numbers, they just throw ballpark figures out. When they bust out the charts, they don’t tell you what they’re comparing with. (Android keynotes, the ones I’ve watched from Google and Samsung, tend to focus more on features, since they’re selling phones and software — Google buys their chips and Samsung does as well in addition to making chips for others.)
I have an iPhone from 2024 (16 Pro Max, so the top model, and now the second-most powerful model) and a Galaxy S10 from 2019. The S10 is still better at a few things, and hardly a bad phone in any regard (except, it’s not being used as a phone, it has no cell service, it’s just a WiFi device at this point).
Shitty apps are going to continue to bloat. They do on iOS as well. Only, we can’t delete cache. You have to uninstall and reinstall. It’s kinda shit in that regard (and others, to be fair).
The key isn’t to avoid the top phones, it’s to stop buying the latest top phone. Buy one from a year or two ago. iPhones lose half their value every year. It’s worse for Android. Of course, those are the values from the manufacturers. You always get more selling privately. But when the new ones come out, people are looking to sell their old ones. Give them a fair deal and get a phone for a fraction of what it cost new. Also, a used phone purchase is not a new phone purchased, so it hurts their numbers (I mean, instead of the seller selling to the manufacturer and you both buy new phones, you buy from the seller and the seller buys a new phone, so it’s 1 new sale instead of 2).
My Nokia N900 with its paltry 128 MB RAM had better multitasking than a modern Android. It’s a farce.
I remember the Moto E. Phone wasn’t that good. My proper first phone was a Moto G (original gen 1).
I distinctly remember Pokémon Go not working very well… I think that’s Pokémon Go’s fault. Still has issues on my pixel.
I haven’t spent more than €350 on a smartphone ever. There is absolutely no need. All I do with it is browse Lemmy and do some messaging, a potato could handle that. When I see all these new foldable phones or SoCs that can run an LLM by itself on 16GB RAM, I ask myself why would I even want that. I’m content with my Moto 50 edge neo. Mid-range SoC, plenty of RAM, 512GB ROM. There’s no way I’ll ever need more.
Plus it does Dolby Atmos, HDR, WiFi 6, gets plenty of updates, decent battery life and as close to stock Android as you could hope for these days.