Cyberpunk 2077 is one of my favorite games, but even retcon-ing it in its current state with phantom liberty, it is not as good as any of the games on this list post its initial release.
On the Playstation store, yes. On PC it was mostly fine, if a bit buggy because it was released too early (as so many games are unfortunately). But I and many other people enjoyed it just fine at launch, and it has gotten better and better every year since then. It’s still getting new content and patches 5 years after launch, and the modding scene is absolutely crazy right now, so many good stuff being released.
So your defense is that companies cared more about money than providing a good product?
It wasn’t released early, it was released in a broken state and completely unfinished state, they were missing promised content, and bare minimum standards to make it an rpg.
It’s crazy that people are defending the worst game release EVER as being goty, lmfao give your head a shake.
Not an RPG. You make literally two real choices the whole game: who you are (at the start), and what you’re going to do (at the end). The developers themselves have said that the game is not a RPG, and more like a shooter with some RPG elements when they were criticized about this.
Barely. I remember well levelling up to get the incredible boost of +2.5% at handling handguns. That skill tree was so shitty that I’d prefer if the game didn’t have it.
lol paltry stat bonuses is not progression system. Theres a reason they had to overhaul it…it was hated because it wasn’t a progression system, calling it an rpg is an insult to actual rpgs.
This is so wrong I don’t even know where to start. There is an very convoluted web of how choices in literally dozens of quests affect other quests and other things in the world. There are hours and hours and hours of videos on Youtube going through all the choices you have and all the possible outcomes they give you and all the different endings the game has if you make the right choices.
And since when are we gatekeeping the term RPG? Even the Wikipedia article opens with “Cyberpunk 2077 is a 2020 action role-playing game”… It’s also based on a pen-and-paper RPG, and it’s original creator, Mike Pondsmith, is involved in the creation of this game and it’s upcoming sequel. I’m not sure how much more RPG you can be than that?
GTA V has quests with decisions and lets you make a few ending altering decisions, while also having character progression and item progression, plus let’s you roleplay being a criminal, would it be called an RPG by most people standards? Hardly.
Although I’d say CP2077 is not an RPG by the usual standard, I agree that the game borders the concept. Actually, I’d say most games that have a player character do border the real foundational concept of a “Role-playing Game”, however, that’s not how most people classify RPGs as videogames. For a videogame to be an RPG we understand that they need to pursue those elements wholeheartedly. And that’s definitely not the case for CP2077 (also not for Monster Hunter, nor Souls).
Also, the source material being a TRPG means absolutely nothing. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodhunt’s source material is the TRPG Vampire The Masquerade. Is the game an RPG then? No, it’s a Battle royale. Pathfinder Gallowspire Survivors is a mob-hell/vampire survivor-like game, not an RPG either. Actually, this is even worse for CP2077 because the game takes almost nothing but the setting from the Cyberpunk TRPG.
On older consoles, yes, absolutely. But people really shouldn’t let their saltiness from 5 years ago stop them from enjoying what has since become one of the better games of the past decade.
I call BS, no mention of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 1 and 2 and no Cyberpunk. They fail to give a clear idea of what qualifies as a rpg, but I guess the definition itself is a bit too broad.
The Outer Worlds quickly became one of 2019’s standout RPGs, rivaling acclaimed titles like Disco Elysium, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, and even Kingdom Hearts 3. Developed by Obsidian, it delivered a witty, choice-driven experience that recalled the spirit of Fallout: New Vegas while offering a fresh, satirical take on corporate-dominated sci-fi worlds.
Its blend of sharp dialogue, branching narratives, and flexible character builds gave players true freedom in shaping their story. While some other RPGs of the year were truly unique, The Outer Worlds balanced humor, accessibility, and depth, giving it the chance to reach players who might need an accessible genre gateway before giving games like Disco Elysium a chance. With Outer Wilds 2 set to release soon, interest in the franchise is at an all-time high.
The LLM they used to generate this list doesn’t even know the difference between The Outer Worlds and Outer Wilds
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Outer Worlds over Disco Elysium? Clown list.
Literally sackable offense.
Absolutely insanity.
That was really an obvious sign that this list is trash, i agree
Some weird choices in this one, like completely ignoring Cyberpunk 2077 exists.
Cyberpunk 2077 is one of my favorite games, but even retcon-ing it in its current state with phantom liberty, it is not as good as any of the games on this list post its initial release.
Yeah maybe because the game was good two years after the initial release haha
You mean the game that forced companies to take it from their stores? Weird choice for GOTY…
It didn’t become goty until like three years after it released, lmao.
And it’s not gonna beat ER, even if it was in its current state at release.
On the Playstation store, yes. On PC it was mostly fine, if a bit buggy because it was released too early (as so many games are unfortunately). But I and many other people enjoyed it just fine at launch, and it has gotten better and better every year since then. It’s still getting new content and patches 5 years after launch, and the modding scene is absolutely crazy right now, so many good stuff being released.
So your defense is that companies cared more about money than providing a good product?
It wasn’t released early, it was released in a broken state and completely unfinished state, they were missing promised content, and bare minimum standards to make it an rpg.
It’s crazy that people are defending the worst game release EVER as being goty, lmfao give your head a shake.
Not an RPG. You make literally two real choices the whole game: who you are (at the start), and what you’re going to do (at the end). The developers themselves have said that the game is not a RPG, and more like a shooter with some RPG elements when they were criticized about this.
Although I have to agree that the list doesn’t seem to care about this, as they’ve put Dark Souls, Monster Hunter and Elden Ring as RPGs…
All of those have character progression (skills/points) that’s a main attribute of RPGs.
So does Cyberpunk.
Before or after the overhaul? Because at launch it was barely enough to call it a progression system.
It had all of those things at launch.
Barely. I remember well levelling up to get the incredible boost of +2.5% at handling handguns. That skill tree was so shitty that I’d prefer if the game didn’t have it.
lol paltry stat bonuses is not progression system. Theres a reason they had to overhaul it…it was hated because it wasn’t a progression system, calling it an rpg is an insult to actual rpgs.
This is so wrong I don’t even know where to start. There is an very convoluted web of how choices in literally dozens of quests affect other quests and other things in the world. There are hours and hours and hours of videos on Youtube going through all the choices you have and all the possible outcomes they give you and all the different endings the game has if you make the right choices.
And since when are we gatekeeping the term RPG? Even the Wikipedia article opens with “Cyberpunk 2077 is a 2020 action role-playing game”… It’s also based on a pen-and-paper RPG, and it’s original creator, Mike Pondsmith, is involved in the creation of this game and it’s upcoming sequel. I’m not sure how much more RPG you can be than that?
GTA V has quests with decisions and lets you make a few ending altering decisions, while also having character progression and item progression, plus let’s you roleplay being a criminal, would it be called an RPG by most people standards? Hardly.
Although I’d say CP2077 is not an RPG by the usual standard, I agree that the game borders the concept. Actually, I’d say most games that have a player character do border the real foundational concept of a “Role-playing Game”, however, that’s not how most people classify RPGs as videogames. For a videogame to be an RPG we understand that they need to pursue those elements wholeheartedly. And that’s definitely not the case for CP2077 (also not for Monster Hunter, nor Souls).
Also, the source material being a TRPG means absolutely nothing. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodhunt’s source material is the TRPG Vampire The Masquerade. Is the game an RPG then? No, it’s a Battle royale. Pathfinder Gallowspire Survivors is a mob-hell/vampire survivor-like game, not an RPG either. Actually, this is even worse for CP2077 because the game takes almost nothing but the setting from the Cyberpunk TRPG.
It was straight broken garbage when it came out.
On older consoles, yes, absolutely. But people really shouldn’t let their saltiness from 5 years ago stop them from enjoying what has since become one of the better games of the past decade.
It doesn’t matter if it became that, the question is what was it the year it’s released. That’s what this list is for. That year.
Then they shouldn’t have had dollar signs in their eyes and not released into systems that couldn’t handle it Lmfao.
You have some very interesting takes…
I thought it was a decent 20 hour game squeezed into a 100 hour open world slog, that completely ruins the urgent nature of the plot.
Phantom Liberty was pretty great though. The confined nature of it let the story develop with pace.
CDPR should just stop trying to force everything into open worlds because their games are still good in spite of them, not because of them.
Safe sanitized normie-core list that doesn’t deserve an article.
I call BS, no mention of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 1 and 2 and no Cyberpunk. They fail to give a clear idea of what qualifies as a rpg, but I guess the definition itself is a bit too broad.
The LLM they used to generate this list doesn’t even know the difference between The Outer Worlds and Outer Wilds