I see DLC mentioned and first thing I thought was did this game already release and I had no idea about it? If it’s already out and no one is talking about it does it mean it’s trash? Turns out it’s still 2 months away from releasing.
But it’s true this is paradox games we’re talking about, more of a dlc studio than a games studio.
But Shadows & Silk has been made in conjunction with the rest of Bloodlines 2. It’s been designed to be experienced at launch. This is not “new”; it’s effectively part of the base game. But it’s been purposefully siloed away to encourage players to shell out more cash. It’s just a bad look.
This sums up my issue with this DLC. The two clans were part of the dev time when it came to developing Bloodines 2.
It’s crazy, it’s as if these corporations don’t WANT my money. Never, EVER buy into day 1 DLC, it’s the most anti-consumer practice in the entire games industry.
You sounds like an asshole, but you’re partially right. Speaking of the people who buy FIFA every year without as much of a second thought. They people who very casually just buy into games they have a passing interest in.
But I’m not so sure that crowd makes up a majority anymore.
I’m not going to sugarcoat hard to swallow pills here 🤣
You want to make a bet for charity?
I’ll wait until the next time I hear gamers screeching about dlc online. But this time I’ll use pretty language and be super wholesome.
I guarantee I get 90% the same response from this or any other gaming sub.
Care to work out the specifics of that bet? I have long given up giving two fucks about sensible Internet speech. Monkeys can’t hold sensible conversations unless they are face to face with social consequences. Call me part of the problem 🤷♂️.
Tbh their old dlc practices were fine. Stellaris? Until relatively recently every dlc came with free updates and they all provided major changes to the gameplay. somewhere down the line the dlc became much less impactful, and that seems to be the case here as well.
This is the future of game development. Games cost more to make, so they’re going to pass the costs on to the consumer.
Right now games basically go for $70. There is a push for $80 and some developers are getting it (e.g. Nintendo with Mario Kart World). However, DLC will invariably push the game’s cost closer to $100. To stick with MKW, it’s not hard to see that not all the racers are in the game, who were in the last one. So the thinking there is they will probably be sold down the road for around $20 to get that game up to $100 total.
For a lot of gamers, the extra cost isn’t that big of a deal. Gaming is still a cheap hobby, and all three console makers are seeing good numbers with their more expensive consoles. The PS5 and Xbox Series X weren’t even improved, they just had their prices jacked up 10-20%. The Switch 2 is arguably just a minor uptick from the first model (and partially a downgrade from the OLED model) but it’s something like 30-50% more? And it’s selling like hotcakes, proving that gamers can afford to pay more, and will pay more. Not enough people are willing to put their foot down and declare that enough is enough when it comes to corporate greed. And with the costs of everything going up, it’s not 100% greed driving the price increases. Developers gotta eat too.
I liked the Rockband model. You bought the base game for like $60 (or more like $200-250, whatever it was with the drums, guitar, and mic, but those were reasonable hardware costs) and then you bought the songs you wanted for $2 apiece. With the first two, the on-disc songs were mostly great. With the third one, it was more questionable, but since you could export the previous games’ songs, it wasn’t as bad. The fourth one’s soundtrack mostly stunk, but then they gave us the ability to hide songs from certain sources, and by then we had over 150 songs from the previous 3 games (plus whatever DLC). Fun fact: Rockband is partially why console mods exist. Rockband 3 was the pilot program on Xbox 360, and to this day, you can load custom songs in it. It was never the intention to be able to do it for free, but the developers never cared that people were doing it. You could get uncensored songs, and you could get songs from other countries — there’s a whole “J-Rockband” scene of people playing Japanese music on it — that the developers were never going to chart/sell. Not only were the developers all musicians, many of whom made customs for the paid market, but they have been “caught” playing the free customs as well. (The developer, Harmonix, is now part of Epic Games and is responsible for Fortnite Festival, which is free to play, but you can’t use instrument controllers, and it’s a revolving selection of songs.)
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my new philosophy is pirating games with dlc
a) You made an awesome game, and you want to create more content for it because it’s popular! Good, I’ll pay for it if you want me to!
b) You made a game and you want to to bill me twice if I want to get the whole thing? Yeah I’m not stupid sorry. I’ll say hi to Amelie.
OK so 50% off sale Ultimate Edition later, understood.
I see DLC mentioned and first thing I thought was did this game already release and I had no idea about it? If it’s already out and no one is talking about it does it mean it’s trash? Turns out it’s still 2 months away from releasing.
But it’s true this is paradox games we’re talking about, more of a dlc studio than a games studio.
Paradox are the publisher here, but not the developer.
This sums up my issue with this DLC. The two clans were part of the dev time when it came to developing Bloodines 2.
This has been the issue with most DLC since it was introduced
As we had all feared. Now that we know this for certain, I wonder what other nasty tricks The Chinese Room will try to pull with this game…
It’s crazy, it’s as if these corporations don’t WANT my money. Never, EVER buy into day 1 DLC, it’s the most anti-consumer practice in the entire games industry.
I’m pretty sure they are doing just fine. Your little “I hate dlc” feeling are in the minority. Most don’t care unless it’s particularly egregious.
Found the corpo
Awww, your little bubble is so pleasant and quaint!
I’m pretty sure they’re doing just fine.
I mean they are in a bubble right? Thatsthepoint.txt.
If you’re going to hop on the “we don’t like your opinion” train, at least pay attention.
I‘m pretty sure I’ll be just fine.
FIFY :)
You sounds like an asshole, but you’re partially right. Speaking of the people who buy FIFA every year without as much of a second thought. They people who very casually just buy into games they have a passing interest in.
But I’m not so sure that crowd makes up a majority anymore.
I’m not going to sugarcoat hard to swallow pills here 🤣
You want to make a bet for charity?
I’ll wait until the next time I hear gamers screeching about dlc online. But this time I’ll use pretty language and be super wholesome.
I guarantee I get 90% the same response from this or any other gaming sub.
Care to work out the specifics of that bet? I have long given up giving two fucks about sensible Internet speech. Monkeys can’t hold sensible conversations unless they are face to face with social consequences. Call me part of the problem 🤷♂️.
Toreador was straight up advertised as being in the base game for years.
Sounds interesting, but I’ve never bought more than SC and Stellaris is because I don’t do DLC. Their strategy puts me off before I even start.
Tbh their old dlc practices were fine. Stellaris? Until relatively recently every dlc came with free updates and they all provided major changes to the gameplay. somewhere down the line the dlc became much less impactful, and that seems to be the case here as well.
This is the future of game development. Games cost more to make, so they’re going to pass the costs on to the consumer.
Right now games basically go for $70. There is a push for $80 and some developers are getting it (e.g. Nintendo with Mario Kart World). However, DLC will invariably push the game’s cost closer to $100. To stick with MKW, it’s not hard to see that not all the racers are in the game, who were in the last one. So the thinking there is they will probably be sold down the road for around $20 to get that game up to $100 total.
For a lot of gamers, the extra cost isn’t that big of a deal. Gaming is still a cheap hobby, and all three console makers are seeing good numbers with their more expensive consoles. The PS5 and Xbox Series X weren’t even improved, they just had their prices jacked up 10-20%. The Switch 2 is arguably just a minor uptick from the first model (and partially a downgrade from the OLED model) but it’s something like 30-50% more? And it’s selling like hotcakes, proving that gamers can afford to pay more, and will pay more. Not enough people are willing to put their foot down and declare that enough is enough when it comes to corporate greed. And with the costs of everything going up, it’s not 100% greed driving the price increases. Developers gotta eat too.
I liked the Rockband model. You bought the base game for like $60 (or more like $200-250, whatever it was with the drums, guitar, and mic, but those were reasonable hardware costs) and then you bought the songs you wanted for $2 apiece. With the first two, the on-disc songs were mostly great. With the third one, it was more questionable, but since you could export the previous games’ songs, it wasn’t as bad. The fourth one’s soundtrack mostly stunk, but then they gave us the ability to hide songs from certain sources, and by then we had over 150 songs from the previous 3 games (plus whatever DLC). Fun fact: Rockband is partially why console mods exist. Rockband 3 was the pilot program on Xbox 360, and to this day, you can load custom songs in it. It was never the intention to be able to do it for free, but the developers never cared that people were doing it. You could get uncensored songs, and you could get songs from other countries — there’s a whole “J-Rockband” scene of people playing Japanese music on it — that the developers were never going to chart/sell. Not only were the developers all musicians, many of whom made customs for the paid market, but they have been “caught” playing the free customs as well. (The developer, Harmonix, is now part of Epic Games and is responsible for Fortnite Festival, which is free to play, but you can’t use instrument controllers, and it’s a revolving selection of songs.)
You definitely can. They even sell guitar controllers now specifically for Fortnite Festival.
The fucking Toreador are a DLC!? The absolute balls on them!