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That’s a bug in web Outlook. You can work around it by deleting cookies from Outlook before logging in. On Firefox, I always press Ctrl+Shift+H, search for “outlook” and then right-click on an entry → Forget About This Site.

Don’t ask me why it takes so long for them to fix it…

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That’s helpful, thank you! 😄

I had been opening it in incognito to get around it, but even then it seemed to fail sometimes. I’ll tell people to try this next time

I have this problem every day. Clear your cache, close your browser, and then reopen to outlook and that works for me most of the time.

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i dedicate chrome to using nothing besides this single sign on and i this happens to me every day nonetheless.

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Anyone is still using M$ Office/Outlook/365? With a ton of better alternatives out there.

I am just because it’s so cheap. On the family plan I get 5TB of storage for £10.49. Proton costs more than that for 500GB.

For cloud storage I use Filen (Germany), 10GB for free

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But the closest thing to the 6 TB Microsoft offers, would be the 10TB from filen at €400 a year. Whereas with Microsoft, it’s only $120 a year and you get all the other services. Say what you will about the quality of MS products, but they are the cheaper option here.

Plus it’s a backup location for stuff I simply can’t lose, like the photos of my daughter being born and my wedding. I don’t want to trust them to some company that might suddenly go into administration without any notice.

Plus it’s a backup location for stuff I simply can’t lose

It’s not a backup. You’re using “cloud storage”.

I just want you to understand that, because Microsoft’s online storage is not somewhere I would entrust with precious data.

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I’m guessing the vast majority of its users are students and corporate employees, neither of which get a say in which software is used.

Yea I’m a student and my community college uses Outlook. It sucks because I really don’t use that email for anything, and sometimes I get signed out and don’t notice and then I don’t get a notification when the professor sends out a class email

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You could set up a mail forwarding rule in the web client to forward all incoming mail to your primary email.

Nothing quite like dumb workarounds for Microsoft bullshit.

Thanks, I’ll look into that. It’s frustrating though because I’ve been signed into google on all three of my devices for months and months without getting logged out. My college uses Microsoft login for email and Canvas, which is like Blackboard, and for Self-Service, which is for registering and billing etc and I constantly need to login again and again.

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They have no say… up until everyone actually says something. Then maybe we do have a say.

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Uhuh. Let me know how that works for you, out in a real corporate setting.

In my experience you can say all you want (if you’re lucky), but in the end, switching providers on a large scale costs a lot of money. And their money is more important than your discomfort.

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Convincing just one person there is an issue is progress. Cooperating with another for better negotiations is progress.

Are there benefits of promoting inaction?

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You can either pick a battle that you cannot win (assuming you’re not the one in charge of the many millions such a migration would cost). You can just deal with it, or you can look for better circumstances.

You say you’re convincing people, management sees a trouble maker who’s spreading unhappiness.

In my opinion, it’s better to save your energy for something where it can make a change, not a futile attempt at trying to make an institute drop Outlook or Teams, or whatever shitty software we’re talking about.

But hey, this is just my advice. You do you.

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Unfortunately large institutions have been spending millions to transition TO 365 the past few years. Education and healthcare are the ones I’m aware of

Like what?

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Two weeks ago I had this same problem trying to sign in to remote play my Xbox. Once I overcame this bug there were other bugs and I eventually just gave up.

Honestly I think that the only reason why M$ and all it’s apps and services has become so big is, that it’s installed by default in almost any new PC since ever, first naturally because the lack of alternatives. Luckily it’s changing nowadays, there are more and more shops which sell PC only with FreeDOS, to the User choice which OS he want to use with. Now it’s the same with the Phones, by default iOS or Android, after killing Windows Phone (was a good one, but stupid decisions of MS ended it) and Symbiant.

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