Remember when Paypal said they would straight up steal your money if they found social media posts they don’t like. Even if it’s on a platform they have nothing to do with?
Wouldn’t that be considered cyberstalking/harrasment by searching for, obtaining, and using any business employee’s personal contact info for matters related to their business in most places in the world?
Yes, I understand that in places like the USA that info is technically public info usually, but I feel like contacting someone’s private contact for matters related to their business is crossing a line that I wouldn’t want someone to do to me. I don’t want someone blowing up my personal phone every time something happens at my work, whether I was even involved or not, but especially if I was not involved at all.
Obviously this is a complex issue, but I personally would not look for personal contact info from any employee, nor do I personally recommend it.
When a business starts dictating morality to the general public, it too crosses a line from “just business” to a legit public concern that merits a stronger response. Hiding from the consequences of their actions because it’s “just business” is the reason so much of the world is so incredibly shitty right now, and we need to move past it’s acceptability as an excuse.
I don’t understand this fully, from a profiteering gluttons standpoint, why wouldn’t they want to process anything and everything and make all the money they can?
Probably image. They don’t want to be associated with something they think the public will perceive as negative. Bitcoin was vilified initially because “criminals were using it” (but let’s forget about the part where cash is also untraceable). So they prob don’t want to be the “credit card company that supports pedophiles and rapists”
I’ll tell you why. Government uses soft threats to encourage private business to censor things. I know some of you guys don’t like this side of this parallel story, but do you remember when the FBI was marking posts for twitter to take down as “misinformation,” and accounts to ban, that then was shown to not be misinformation, but rather just inconvenient for the current presidency in charge. Whether you like it or not, that happened, and it was wrong.
The legal code in the US is so large and companies engage in so much activity that it is impossible to run a 100% legal business. Companies instead run by an “ask forgiveness later” model. It’s the only one that can actually work in the US. But to be able to run that model you need the good graces of the government. The government can always decide to prosecute on an otherwise small matter instead of advise correction. So when it says jump companies do it.
There was a time when you could be banned off of twitter for saying factual things the FBI didn’t like. And it’s not like the FBI didn’t know better. We didn’t need independent verification of the Hunter Biden emails because we had confirmed cryptographic signatures on all of the emails. Journalists get a pass because they are technologically illiterate, but the FBI and Twitter sure didn’t. The FBI said “It looks like something Russia would hoax.” Sure. It does. But they didn’t because we have cryptographic signitures. Always did.
What’s crazy about this is that the supreme court ruled against this use of third parties. But the practice wasn’t new when it hit social media because it’s been a long practice with payment processors. So my question when that ruling came out was “what about the existing similar practice in payment processors.” Apparently the government and processors are still in cahoots in violation of that ruling. That relationship was actually started in an effort to crack down on bestiality porn, which is never the less legal in the US.
So the question is do you like to government directing third parties to censor?
I’m guessing there’s legal pressure from some countries, and to stay in their good graces (i.e. ward off alternatives), they’re making these policies global.
It’s not at all countries, with the recent round of censoring on Steam and Itch it was an Australian TERF/SWERF advocacy group called Collective Shout. But other policy changes have been linked to their sister orgs in places like the US. They got 1000 people to complain until the policy was changed.
Yes. But some countries includes the United States, and US states, and others. There is an established relation between the US government and payment processors to shut down activity the government doesn’t like but either can’t or hasn’t make illegal.
Now, if you could give everyone the context so everyone can judge if your behaviour is childish or not
You posted a meme you made (which is now this topic thumbnail btw), with an exact copy of this very thread, which are both rule 4 violation
You reposted it as soon as I deleted it, adding an insult toward the moderation, without even trying to clarify with said moderation why the first one was removed. Rule 4 was once again called, as well as rule 2.
I sent you a direct message to try to explain you why it was removed, and direct you toward consolidating on this topic, that was, once again, posted not so long ago with the very same info (including the various linking errors) by no other than yourself.
At least you seem to have registered the last part, as we can see here, but looks like there was no attention left for the first part.
So feel free to do your pool, which I find childish (but that’s my opinion). I’ll give you an hour or two to counterargue, and I’ll consider if I should or not give you a temp ban after that.
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Found this on bsky, hope it helps.
AMEX killing it again. Just sucks they got beef with Costco, who also kill it. I don’t want to be asked to take sides.
Costco would win. No question.
The CEO of Costco literally said to a consultant “if you make me dump the 1.50 hotdogs, I’ll kill you”
Thanks for sharing! I’ll convert this to plain text with clickable single-dial phone numbers and emails and repost tomorrow morning
Remember when Paypal said they would straight up steal your money if they found social media posts they don’t like. Even if it’s on a platform they have nothing to do with?
This proof that the world needs more crypto.
Why call some drone in an outsourced call center?
Find out the home addresses and numbers of their C-staff and board. Call them, send them physical letters. Picket their homes.
Wouldn’t that be considered cyberstalking/harrasment by searching for, obtaining, and using any business employee’s personal contact info for matters related to their business in most places in the world?
Yes, I understand that in places like the USA that info is technically public info usually, but I feel like contacting someone’s private contact for matters related to their business is crossing a line that I wouldn’t want someone to do to me. I don’t want someone blowing up my personal phone every time something happens at my work, whether I was even involved or not, but especially if I was not involved at all.
Obviously this is a complex issue, but I personally would not look for personal contact info from any employee, nor do I personally recommend it.
When a business starts dictating morality to the general public, it too crosses a line from “just business” to a legit public concern that merits a stronger response. Hiding from the consequences of their actions because it’s “just business” is the reason so much of the world is so incredibly shitty right now, and we need to move past it’s acceptability as an excuse.
I don’t understand this fully, from a profiteering gluttons standpoint, why wouldn’t they want to process anything and everything and make all the money they can?
Probably image. They don’t want to be associated with something they think the public will perceive as negative. Bitcoin was vilified initially because “criminals were using it” (but let’s forget about the part where cash is also untraceable). So they prob don’t want to be the “credit card company that supports pedophiles and rapists”
Cash is traceable (at least bills). All bills have serial numbers and any time cash enters a bank it’s tracked who took it into or out of the bank.
So if I withdraw cash, hand it to you and you put it in the bank, the bank knows we are somewhat connected.
I’ll tell you why. Government uses soft threats to encourage private business to censor things. I know some of you guys don’t like this side of this parallel story, but do you remember when the FBI was marking posts for twitter to take down as “misinformation,” and accounts to ban, that then was shown to not be misinformation, but rather just inconvenient for the current presidency in charge. Whether you like it or not, that happened, and it was wrong.
The legal code in the US is so large and companies engage in so much activity that it is impossible to run a 100% legal business. Companies instead run by an “ask forgiveness later” model. It’s the only one that can actually work in the US. But to be able to run that model you need the good graces of the government. The government can always decide to prosecute on an otherwise small matter instead of advise correction. So when it says jump companies do it.
There was a time when you could be banned off of twitter for saying factual things the FBI didn’t like. And it’s not like the FBI didn’t know better. We didn’t need independent verification of the Hunter Biden emails because we had confirmed cryptographic signatures on all of the emails. Journalists get a pass because they are technologically illiterate, but the FBI and Twitter sure didn’t. The FBI said “It looks like something Russia would hoax.” Sure. It does. But they didn’t because we have cryptographic signitures. Always did.
What’s crazy about this is that the supreme court ruled against this use of third parties. But the practice wasn’t new when it hit social media because it’s been a long practice with payment processors. So my question when that ruling came out was “what about the existing similar practice in payment processors.” Apparently the government and processors are still in cahoots in violation of that ruling. That relationship was actually started in an effort to crack down on bestiality porn, which is never the less legal in the US.
So the question is do you like to government directing third parties to censor?
https://www.eff.org/issues/financial-censorship
I’m guessing there’s legal pressure from some countries, and to stay in their good graces (i.e. ward off alternatives), they’re making these policies global.
It’s not at all countries, with the recent round of censoring on Steam and Itch it was an Australian TERF/SWERF advocacy group called Collective Shout. But other policy changes have been linked to their sister orgs in places like the US. They got 1000 people to complain until the policy was changed.
They at least took credit, but I’m guessing there was pressure from other areas as well. Hopefully this campaign will help reverse this policy.
Yes. But some countries includes the United States, and US states, and others. There is an established relation between the US government and payment processors to shut down activity the government doesn’t like but either can’t or hasn’t make illegal.
https://www.eff.org/issues/financial-censorship
This is what we should be doing. How many people can we pull together to make this work?
In Lemmy, there are dozens of us, but that doesn’t mean we can’t recruit people we know who are on Facebook, Instagram, Xitter, Bluesky, TikTok, etc.
Some hacker should release the porn history of their CEOs
So I appreciate the pushback, but for those of us with the option, what should we choose? Amex? Bitcoin is non-viable.
I’m too tired from all the bullshit. I just want a solution, not another problem. I live in America, and we have WAY too many problems already.
Yes, by definition
Now, if you could give everyone the context so everyone can judge if your behaviour is childish or not
So feel free to do your pool, which I find childish (but that’s my opinion). I’ll give you an hour or two to counterargue, and I’ll consider if I should or not give you a temp ban after that.
Nerd
Edit:
No linking errors on my end. Skill issue probly
I’ve already explained that I edited this post to reflect the updates (and changed the image to the new one after you removed it for the second time)
You DMed me after removing my second attempt
This is just like the time you said “Harriett Tubman sucks and was an idiot” and then got mad at me for saying you suck in response
Oh~. The very foundation of my existance was shook by that insight. Go on, tell me more…
Or software issue. Looks like my dialer do not like that first link.
I don’t see anything on my previous post stating otherwhise.
I don’t remember that one, care to provide a link ? If it was removed, mods should still be able to see it, even if you may not.
Triple nerd
Someone really want to make me cry~. Of laughter that is.
Can you just ban me so I can go back to being the victim here?
Later.
As it is the end of my watch, here you go. Now come back when you’ll have grown up a bit.
Union of concerned gooners rising up
First they came for the gooners,
and Dremor removed my post,
because they’re insecure about being a gooner
Then they came for the queers,
and I died in prison,
because of Dremor being a twat
Then they came for Dremor,
and thank goodness,
because they suck
Hey, I’m not saying I don’t stand with the gooners, take that back
My apologies, I’ve revised my comment
I love you too, no matter how toxic you try to be. 😘
Could I, maybe, get a little more salt to season tonight pastas ?
Reported for incivility 😤 that kiss emoji is clearly a threat