Turns out you don't need a pump after all.

Interesting to see a major brand trying to do this. I wonder Icegiant will respond.

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So it’s a big heatpipe?

“Yes” with the asterisk that there is no phase change, and the flow paths are segregated.

In a heat pipe, water is installed such that it is kept near it’s liquid-gas phase change point on the pressure-temperature curve. When heated, it turns to “steam”, travels thru the center of the pipe, condenses back to liquid on the cold/fins side (giving off all it’s heat), then returns via capillary action on the metal foam walls of the pipe.

In a thermosiphon, the water never leaves the liquid phase. It simply relies on the density change based on temperature (hot water becomes less dense, and will rise to the top of a column) to force some circulation to occur. The hot fluid rises out of the heatsink and displaces the cooled water in the radiator, which then flows down the other side to return to the heatsink.

Very old cars (<1920) used to rely entirely upon the thermosiphon effect, rather than a pump.
It’s not terribly efficient, especially at higher dissipated power densities. They are also very prone to being overloaded with heat, if the overall loop temperature gets too high and/or the radiator loses some efficiency (e.g clogged with dust), the water can start to boil on the hot plate side and you’ll lose basically all cooling effect when your siphon is blocked with steam.

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That’s not how the article describes it, at least:

Essentially it creates a vapour chamber-like effect by using heat emitted from the CPU to evaporate a refrigerant, which then moves up a vapour tube into a fan-cooled condenser, where it cools off, condenses back to a liquid state, and makes its way back to the CPU to be heated again—no pump required.

Which sounds exactly like a heat pipe.

Edit: I guess the difference is that heat pipes use wicks and capillary action to return the liquid phase, where the thermosiphon instead uses gravity, which makes it a little easier to produce and higher capacity, but vulnerable to changes in orientation.

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They’re in the same family but have some differences.

https://celsiainc.com/heat-sink-tech-tips/thermosiphons-3-benefits-3-drawbacks/

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👨🏼‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

Always has been…

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I’ve used a few different liquid cooling systems, and I’ve never had a problem with pump noise. I’ve always cranked the pumps up to max and varied the fan speed, because the fans are always louder.

That said, there must be some power savings with this setup.

i didnt have a problem with pump noise, however of the two AIOs i had, both had the pump die.

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I had a problem with pump noise, and the pump died, and the AIO leaked on and ruined my graphics card… so yeah, never again for me.

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Same, I RMAed the same Corsair AIO twice, never bothered installing the third one, just got a Noctua instead and I’ll never bother with liquid cooling ever again.

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pretty close to what happened with me. RMA’d an MSI AIO twice, then bought a (MASSIVE) Noctua, which has been 100% reliable.

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Link doesn’t work, but I have an NH-D15 so I definitely know what’s up! Had to slide one of the fans outwards a little because the RAM sticks interfere with the space, but yeah it’s been rock solid for me

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