But Groobo’s record is still listed as the “Fastest completion of an RPG videogame” by Guinness World Records, which has not offered a substantive response to the team’s findings (Guinness has not responded to a request for comment from Ars Technica).
Of course they didn’t. Guinness has never cared about being correct. People pay Guinness to have a record listed. The record holders are the Guinness records’ customers.
They’ll try to hide the most embarrassing stuff, long after the fact, but I wouldn’t expect them to comment publicly on it. It’d be bad for their business.
Full disclosure, I haven’t actually read the article but is it really a scandal? Just create a new speedrun category for preset seeded runs. The old record stays and people can now try to hunt for the most efficient seeds.
That’s the thing. They scanned EVERY possible seed, and the run in question didn’t match ANY of them.
They also found that a key item found in an optimal location was only possible in a version of the game that didn’t match what they claimed to be running.
They also noticed that the lvl 12 sorc was dealing damage as if he was level 20 something.
The group investigating just wanted to see how they would stack up if they could recreate the original streamers perfect luck, and they couldn’t even do that. It really seems like the run was faked.
They didn’t use a single run but multiple seeds in split segments. They also used illegitimate seeds to get a rare item earlier as well. Also somehow killed some boss with less fireballs but while possible they found the level needed to do it was in high 20s while his speedrun showed 13.
Only in the same way that (e-)sports are entertainment. They are entertainment mixed with competition, cheating in any form of sport is a massive no no.
Yes it’s kind of a scandal. And it isn’t a predefined seed. It’s spliced and most likely had changed stats and drops. It was submitted as spliced, which is allowed, but then the splices should have had the same seed, items, HP, etc. Which are all inconsistent.
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Of course they didn’t. Guinness has never cared about being correct. People pay Guinness to have a record listed. The record holders are the Guinness records’ customers.
They did quietly remove a few of Tommy Tallarico’s records, halfway through that Hbomberguy video.
Sure, but I think the key word here is quietly.
They’ll try to hide the most embarrassing stuff, long after the fact, but I wouldn’t expect them to comment publicly on it. It’d be bad for their business.
Full disclosure, I haven’t actually read the article but is it really a scandal? Just create a new speedrun category for preset seeded runs. The old record stays and people can now try to hunt for the most efficient seeds.
That’s the thing. They scanned EVERY possible seed, and the run in question didn’t match ANY of them.
They also found that a key item found in an optimal location was only possible in a version of the game that didn’t match what they claimed to be running.
They also noticed that the lvl 12 sorc was dealing damage as if he was level 20 something.
The group investigating just wanted to see how they would stack up if they could recreate the original streamers perfect luck, and they couldn’t even do that. It really seems like the run was faked.
They didn’t use a single run but multiple seeds in split segments. They also used illegitimate seeds to get a rare item earlier as well. Also somehow killed some boss with less fireballs but while possible they found the level needed to do it was in high 20s while his speedrun showed 13.
It wasn’t a scandal per se, but that in attempting to replicate Groobo’s runs, they found too many impossible situations to be plausible.
Groobo’s “runs” can now be considered entertainment, no legitimacy to be found.
Wait, i thought all of it was entertainment :O
Only in the same way that (e-)sports are entertainment. They are entertainment mixed with competition, cheating in any form of sport is a massive no no.
Sure, but legally cannot be called a “run.”
Yes it’s kind of a scandal. And it isn’t a predefined seed. It’s spliced and most likely had changed stats and drops. It was submitted as spliced, which is allowed, but then the splices should have had the same seed, items, HP, etc. Which are all inconsistent.
The article say 15 feb 2025, but I swear I read that exact same story about a year ago.