I’m not denying that Brandon Sanderson sells a lot of books, which is what those lists track. His aggressive mediocrity is, in many ways, precisely why he’s on those lists.
Yeah my son was given a copy for Christmas and reading it for the second time ever I have to agree it’s well written. Lots of little details that are simultaneously fun and world/character building.
Eg: Hagrid giving Dudley a pig tail and then grumbling that he’d tried to turn him into a pig, but it turns out he’s already so piglike he’s only missing a tail. It is funny (for a 7 year old), it builds Dudley’s character and also foreshadows Hagrid’s iffy relationship with magic.
I loved it as a kid. But it was one of the first books I ever read so I didn’t have much to compare it to. I tried rereading it a few years ago and it’s fine up until about the third or fourth book. Rowling loses control over the world building and the plots become boring. So many things could have been avoided if Dumbledor wasn’t so secretive about Harry’s past. There’s no reason Harry should have thought that Sirius killed his parents and was a crazed lunatic. Dumbledor just hid the truth for no reason. Petrigrew not being spotted by George and Fred was a huge oversight. There’s too many contradictions by the end of the series. Also the fourth book is just a mess with all the side plots like Hermione trying to free the house elves from Hogwarts. Hilariously no one gives a fuck at all and she just abandons trying to do the right thing. Even Harry who didn’t grow up as a wizard was just like “if they wanna be slaves then let them”. Its fine for kids, especially as a first series, but there’s too many issues to ignore.
Nah, I love lots of popular things. But I can also separate my personal enjoyment of something from its inherent quality.
Mistborn’s actual plot is fun! I enjoyed it. That said, the books are very poorly written. Everything from the characterization to the style is objectively bad. Brandon Sanderson is not intellectually gifted or well-read or emotionally intelligent, etc, and that impedes his writing ability.
Would you say “How I Met Your Mother” is some incredibly well written work of art? Come on, it’s one iota removed from fart jokes.
You are just saying that it IS bad without offering any actual explanation.
How is it bad in your opinion, what specifically is an example of bad and why you think that way.
“Everything from the characterization to the style is objectively bad”
Is no different than saying “it’s bad” you offer nothing about your opinion other than how you feel about it, which you have already expressed and are just repeating yourself with more words.
If you don’t care to explain your opinion beyond stating what you’re opinion is then your opinion isn’t worth much to anyone else which makes your comment a waste of time and energy. A waste of your time and energy as well as everyone else’s
Perhaps you only wanted wanted attention though as your only motive which if it’s in fact what you wanted then congratulations on that
Even if I explained in painstaking detail how Sanderson mixes metaphors or fumbles diction, what’s the point?
Honestly, go read a few thousand books, then revisit Mistborn and see for yourself. Or maybe make friends with a literature professor and ask them to explain it to you using tiny words.
You chose to express your opinion for a reason. You chose communicate it to other people by the medium of Lemmy which exists so that PEOPLE can talk to other people.
This isn’t a diary or a journal.
The point would be to help other people understand what the fuck you mean with your words you chose to string together, Jesse.
I’ve been reading for almost 40 years and I’m asking you to explain what you meant. Initially because I’ve read those books and many others and it was anything other than clear to me why you hold the opinion you hold.
Asking you to explain yourself and you can only say go spend literally decades reading other things if you didn’t implicitly understand why I said what I said.
As someone who has read thousands of books you should be able to clearly and accurately describe the major flaws and recommend books that were superior in relation to the problems you see.
That’s why I bothered reading this back and forth for so long. I am someone who has NOT read thousand of books , but enjoyed the 8 books of mistborn.
I’d be joyed to read something in the same vein but even better.
B) I’m glad you enjoyed Mistborn. I enjoy frozen pizza. Is it culinary art? No, and I’m not writing an essay to explain why. Just try some other food and then reflect on your experiences.
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A book series so poorly written, you’ll never believe the author did so on purpose.
I feel like this is not the popular consensus…
Times Top 100 Fantasy Books
NPR top 100 fantasy
Highly rated on Goodreads
Like… maybe some people aren’t a huge fan, but saying poorly written seems harsh. Maybe you just don’t like fantasy?
I’m not denying that Brandon Sanderson sells a lot of books, which is what those lists track. His aggressive mediocrity is, in many ways, precisely why he’s on those lists.
Not to speak of this particular series one way or the other but… Popular things can also be poorly written. Case and point: Harry Potter.
Regardless of how you feel about the author, Harry Potter is not poorly written.
Yeah my son was given a copy for Christmas and reading it for the second time ever I have to agree it’s well written. Lots of little details that are simultaneously fun and world/character building.
Eg: Hagrid giving Dudley a pig tail and then grumbling that he’d tried to turn him into a pig, but it turns out he’s already so piglike he’s only missing a tail. It is funny (for a 7 year old), it builds Dudley’s character and also foreshadows Hagrid’s iffy relationship with magic.
I loved it as a kid. But it was one of the first books I ever read so I didn’t have much to compare it to. I tried rereading it a few years ago and it’s fine up until about the third or fourth book. Rowling loses control over the world building and the plots become boring. So many things could have been avoided if Dumbledor wasn’t so secretive about Harry’s past. There’s no reason Harry should have thought that Sirius killed his parents and was a crazed lunatic. Dumbledor just hid the truth for no reason. Petrigrew not being spotted by George and Fred was a huge oversight. There’s too many contradictions by the end of the series. Also the fourth book is just a mess with all the side plots like Hermione trying to free the house elves from Hogwarts. Hilariously no one gives a fuck at all and she just abandons trying to do the right thing. Even Harry who didn’t grow up as a wizard was just like “if they wanna be slaves then let them”. Its fine for kids, especially as a first series, but there’s too many issues to ignore.
That’s fair.
Huh? How you figure?
Some people just hate anything that’s popular. Most of them grow up at some point.
Nah, I love lots of popular things. But I can also separate my personal enjoyment of something from its inherent quality.
Mistborn’s actual plot is fun! I enjoyed it. That said, the books are very poorly written. Everything from the characterization to the style is objectively bad. Brandon Sanderson is not intellectually gifted or well-read or emotionally intelligent, etc, and that impedes his writing ability.
Would you say “How I Met Your Mother” is some incredibly well written work of art? Come on, it’s one iota removed from fart jokes.
You are just saying that it IS bad without offering any actual explanation.
How is it bad in your opinion, what specifically is an example of bad and why you think that way.
“Everything from the characterization to the style is objectively bad”
Is no different than saying “it’s bad” you offer nothing about your opinion other than how you feel about it, which you have already expressed and are just repeating yourself with more words.
If you don’t care to explain your opinion beyond stating what you’re opinion is then your opinion isn’t worth much to anyone else which makes your comment a waste of time and energy. A waste of your time and energy as well as everyone else’s
Perhaps you only wanted wanted attention though as your only motive which if it’s in fact what you wanted then congratulations on that
Even if I explained in painstaking detail how Sanderson mixes metaphors or fumbles diction, what’s the point?
Honestly, go read a few thousand books, then revisit Mistborn and see for yourself. Or maybe make friends with a literature professor and ask them to explain it to you using tiny words.
You chose to express your opinion for a reason. You chose communicate it to other people by the medium of Lemmy which exists so that PEOPLE can talk to other people.
This isn’t a diary or a journal.
The point would be to help other people understand what the fuck you mean with your words you chose to string together, Jesse.
I’ve been reading for almost 40 years and I’m asking you to explain what you meant. Initially because I’ve read those books and many others and it was anything other than clear to me why you hold the opinion you hold.
Asking you to explain yourself and you can only say go spend literally decades reading other things if you didn’t implicitly understand why I said what I said.
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As someone who has read thousands of books you should be able to clearly and accurately describe the major flaws and recommend books that were superior in relation to the problems you see.
That’s why I bothered reading this back and forth for so long. I am someone who has NOT read thousand of books , but enjoyed the 8 books of mistborn.
I’d be joyed to read something in the same vein but even better.
A) I could do that, as I already said, yes.
B) I’m glad you enjoyed Mistborn. I enjoy frozen pizza. Is it culinary art? No, and I’m not writing an essay to explain why. Just try some other food and then reflect on your experiences.
Reddit needs you. You shouldn’t bother posting on lemmy. You bringing nothing of value.