Valve Responds To Steam Machine's HDMI 2.1 Display Support Controversy
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Valve has set the record straight over the implementation of HDMI in the upcoming Steam Machine.
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No real technical advantage; it’s just owned by the same shitbags that dominate the TV market, so it’s the only way to connect to a lot of consumer living-room displays

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This is the problem. I would switch to DP instantly but my TV only has HDMI ports.

There are DisplayPort to HDMI converters available

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Pretty sure DRMed content refuses to play on those.

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Random clips on the web are DRMed these days, like news articles with an embedded video. Many CMSes just DRM all clips. Totally BS but I’ve seen the video frame staying black on a bunch of sites now.

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TBH you should be playing DRM content though smart TV/TV box apps anyway. Desktop Windows playback is more technically limited (for instance, no auto resolution/refresh rate switching) and aside from that you usually get a worse bitrate stream on a stuttery player.

I don’t even know about DRM playback on Linux.

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You should literally never use the apps built in to your TV. Unless you just really like letting the TV manufacturer know exactly what you are watching and when.

On Linux you check the box in Firefox that says Allow DRM Content and then yes, as far as I know, you need to be using laptop or a HDMI display.

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Fine. then use a Roku or Apple TV or whatever. He literally included those.

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Rokus have the same problem regardless of form factor. But this thread is about people who want to use the Steam Machine for streaming.

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People who connect TVs to the Internet only invite malware. They usually don’t receive big fixes after a few years and tend to spy on all watched content.

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Then watch on a plug-in Android TV box. Or take to the high seas.

I’m just saying, if you’re going to stream from an internet service anyway, video/audio on every HTPC streaming app I’ve tried looks bad. Netflix is the best, and it’s still heavily compromised. And (at least on my Sony), the local Android apps tend to have the best system integration for rescaling, HDR, setting the correct refresh rate, per app IQ settings and so on.

But that obviously doesn’t apply if you’re hosting it locally though Kodi, Jellyfin, Plex or whatever.

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Latency, desync, probably can’t do full 4k/120… just because something exists doesn’t mean it’s a viable solution.

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Display port to HDMI cables are pretty good

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Active ones aren’t cheap, though.

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Yes HDMI forum are shitbags, but there are definitely technical advantages to HDMI. Just that I can think of, DisplayPort doesn’t have ARC (audio return for sound systems), or CEC (device can turn on TV/display, TV remote can pause movie playing on console, etc) and the max length for a DisplayPort cable is no more than 3 meters before you have to go to expensive active cables. Most of these are easy to work around for most PC setups, but if Valve wants the gabecube to easily fit into living room/TV setups, it does present a challenge.

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All of these supposed advantages are solved by USB-C though. Even the length is higher (5m, I believe). I’d be fine if the DisplayPort connector is gone, but the actual standard is just better for most purposes.

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