So when you said “break up Steam” you didn’t mean it in the usual, anti-monopoly sense where bits of a company are spun out into independent entities or sold off?
You meant let everything be done by enthusiasts and have it kinda interoperable?
I’m not against that, but I think there are bigger dragons of capitalism to slay first before we hope that splitting forums off of Steam doesn’t send them the way of the IMDB forums.
Because each independent section would try to make more money and end up breaking things and adding new shit users don’t want but marketing execs think are good.
Name an example of a better workshop, I’ve used nexus mods and it’s a complicated mess that requires a subscription to get normal download speeds for content created for free by other people
He literally just said how it’d be worse. Although that’s probably not how it would get worse, splitting up the services of steam would make them inherently worse.
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How did you get “make steam worse” from that?
Everything else still exists, just not controlled by Valve
…Breaking steam up would make it worse.
How? If any feature is necessary then it will be filled by someone else
You aren’t losing anything
Apart from all the non-profitable features divorced from meaning.
The forums would go in the blink of an eye.
And then each section would try to make itself complete in itself to hoard user time, and at least one would start selling advertising space.
How profitable is running a lemmy instance?
Negatively.
In money for servers as well as time. And that’s for something with far less users than Steam.
That’s the point
It’s done because you want to do it not to make money
Maybe you have 10-20 forums installed into your client to cover the games you play
So when you said “break up Steam” you didn’t mean it in the usual, anti-monopoly sense where bits of a company are spun out into independent entities or sold off?
You meant let everything be done by enthusiasts and have it kinda interoperable?
I’m not against that, but I think there are bigger dragons of capitalism to slay first before we hope that splitting forums off of Steam doesn’t send them the way of the IMDB forums.
Yes
Because each independent section would try to make more money and end up breaking things and adding new shit users don’t want but marketing execs think are good.
Then find a different workshop/forum/launcher to pair with the Steam store
In no world is it worse than what we have now
Name an example of a better workshop, I’ve used nexus mods and it’s a complicated mess that requires a subscription to get normal download speeds for content created for free by other people
If steam is a client not a store then whichever steam allows to be built into their client
So, no answer then?
The answer is whichever one works for you, software is supposed to work together not do everything by itself
States there is nothing worse. Can’t provide a single example of something better.
How can a product exist if Steam currently blocks it from existing?
He literally just said how it’d be worse. Although that’s probably not how it would get worse, splitting up the services of steam would make them inherently worse.