In the desktop world, we have the option to use the command line: a uniform interface for a multitude of apps that would otherwise be very different when implemented as GUIs.
Using the same interface, I can move or edit files, cross out tasks on my to-do list, retrieve my password for my email account (using Bitwarden or pass), etc. All in the command line. The GUI for each of those are wildly different.
The other benefit is it is very easy to create a new command line app, as opposed to a GUI.
Is anything like this possible for the smartphone world (even if it doesn’t or will never exist)? What would it look like?
Since smartphone typing is much slower, we can’t simply reuse the command line. We’d need something different. An interface that can still support a various spectrum of different operations, yet ergonomic for a smartphone. What are your thoughts?
Termux is awesome, but it is not what I’m looking for. Using Termux lacks the ergonomics of using a terminal on desktop. The keyboard / typing experience is far worse.
The last paragraph in your post should have been the only paragraph in your post. People aren’t getting as far as your last paragraph before they give up and make a comment about command lines on Android.
You didn’t need to spend 4 paragraphs telling everyone things they already know. You should have gotten right to the point.
There’s no way to fix that on a phone unless you brough back the physical keyboard, and even then a phone keyboard doesn’t compare to a “real” keyboard. That’s why the gui is used for almost everything, and the CLI is only used by the high power nerds.
As long as the keyboard is constrained by your screen size, the ergonomics in typing speed and error rate are far worse than desktop terminal. If the keyboard is not constrained by screen size, like a sufficiently large physical keyboard, by definition that is no longer a smartphone or mobile phone experience.
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Termux is awesome, but it is not what I’m looking for. Using Termux lacks the ergonomics of using a terminal on desktop. The keyboard / typing experience is far worse.
How would your ideal solution overcome not having a full-sized keyboard in your pocket?
By not relying on typing speed. Maybe the interface could heavily leverage gestures for example, or auto complete, etc. There are many possibilities.
But also this kind of is the core of my question 😄
The last paragraph in your post should have been the only paragraph in your post. People aren’t getting as far as your last paragraph before they give up and make a comment about command lines on Android.
You didn’t need to spend 4 paragraphs telling everyone things they already know. You should have gotten right to the point.
You’re right, thanks for pointing that out. It does seem that almost no one read to the end, and that’s on me.
There’s no way to fix that on a phone unless you brough back the physical keyboard, and even then a phone keyboard doesn’t compare to a “real” keyboard. That’s why the gui is used for almost everything, and the CLI is only used by the high power nerds.
That has nothing to do with the terminal. Get Hacker’s Keyboard or use a physical keyboard if you want a regular keyboard layout.
As long as the keyboard is constrained by your screen size, the ergonomics in typing speed and error rate are far worse than desktop terminal. If the keyboard is not constrained by screen size, like a sufficiently large physical keyboard, by definition that is no longer a smartphone or mobile phone experience.
I think the most confusing part is that you want both the backend and gui to exist, yet don’t like the current back end.
Realistically you could create some super weird controller using all your sensors at once and just wrap it around termux/adb.
Things like termux’ first goal is to work both programmatically and via a user, a wheel that would be pretty difficult to recreate just for phones
@matcha_addict the keyboard experience is quite literally just your device’s keyboard
Maybe you wanna try Unexpected Keyboard?
https://f-droid.org/packages/juloo.keyboard2/
This + dvorak layout is amazing
Nice recommendation! I tried it and it’s probably the first keyboard I actually like.
The keyboard experience is limited by the small size
I have not tried the keyboard you linked. Does it solve this issue?
@matcha_addict you can make it however big or small you want 🤷
Edit: sounds like you meant software keyboard. That is constrained by screen size and hence cannot be as big as I want.
Below is my original comment which assumed you meant a physical keyboard of sufficient size.
If you’re carrying around a big keyboard with your phone, you’ve officially exited mobile phone territory.
Mobile phone is hand-held and pocket sized by definition.
It’s a software keyboard…
Then you’re constrained by the screen size, so it’s incorrect that you can make it as big as you want.
I had a trifold Bluetooth keyboard that was pretty good. 🤷
I addressed the physical keyboard thing one or two comments above, here: https://lemy.lol/comment/9872524
I’m sure it works for you but it’s not what I’m looking for