I covered this in my original comment, thanks though I guess.

You are just ignoring that the installers can be downloaded and saved. Or even just the game directory can continue to work.

Dude, no I am not, my very first comment in this chain talked about the needing to download and store it in a non-degrading way…. Fucking hell dude lmfao.

What point are you trying to make here then if I already covered this at the very start?

How can the installers access a file that no longer exists since the servers are shut down and the files can no longer be accessed…?

My phrasing is confusing since the point literally is fucking pointless, it’s moot, doesn’t matter since it can’t be accessed licensed or not.

That’s literally the point, it’s a useless argument since it doesn’t fucking matter lmfao.

And how does that work when they close down and servers that host the games can no longer be accessed to download your license free game?

Wheter you have a revokabke license or not, you still won’t ever be able to access the game…… how do people need this explained to them? And yet use this single reason like it matters lmfao.

I didn’t know IKEA made video games?

And why does that matter? When they go out of business you can’t download even if you do or don’t have a license.

That’s why it matters.

Because you now have a game that you don’t need a license that you still won’t be able to access or play? So how does that make a single fucking difference lmfao.

That’s my point… it literally doesn’t matter that they can revoke you license or not, when the servers are down, you’re fucked regardless.

Hence why it’s a pointless argument to bring up…

What else do you think I meant here?

That’s only if you download the game and store it in a way that won’t degrade, when their servers are offline, you can’t download it anymore…

This is such a red herring reason, and I don’t know why people hold onto this like it matters, at all.

Mouse wiggler, auto clicker, not hard to bypass any of those.

There’s probably a small portion of people that just leave it on so they never have to wait in queue to get back on.

As the article specifies, the save was to help with an issue, it wasn’t “personal assistance” it just helped the person as well.

The good news is that Griffiths managed to save the player’s, uh, save. In a further update, he posts a video of the game running flicker-free in the same area on the same save. Per Griffiths, the problem was a “general engine bug/limit being reached,” which means that his fix will “probably help other large bases that had this issue on Xbox.”

Read. The. Damn. Article. Instead oof a single tweet taken out of context.

The devs posting to social media is for clout and viral marketing. Why else would they post about it their own bug fix…?

The good news is that Griffiths managed to save the player’s, uh, save. In a further update, he posts a video of the game running flicker-free in the same area on the same save. Per Griffiths, the problem was a “general engine bug/limit being reached,” which means that his fix will “probably help other large bases that had this issue on Xbox.”

So where is the save being sent back for an engine issue….? This specific fix had nothing to do with fixing a specific save issue, they got sent a save that HAD the issue, and used that to fix a generic issue. Why is everyone going on about this being a save fix?

I read what you said, and you still haven’t read the article with the argument you keep going on about.

The good news is that Griffiths managed to save the player’s, uh, save. In a further update, he posts a video of the game running flicker-free in the same area on the same save. Per Griffiths, the problem was a “general engine bug/limit being reached,” which means that his fix will “probably help other large bases that had this issue on Xbox.”

So how is this anything about using personal assistance with a save…? They used the save to fix a generic bug, which is what I was originally talking about until you derailed the topic with your bullshit.

So again, did you ever. Read the bloody article…? Because nothing you’ve talked about is related to it…

The dev who the article was about…? Who else would “they” be in this context?

So they posted to social media for clout? That’s an even worse take.

And no it was a specific dev… did you even read the article?

. As No Man’s Sky engine programmer Martin Griffiths details over on X

Actually in this specific case it wasn’t even that…

The good news is that Griffiths managed to save the player’s, uh, save. In a further update, he posts a video of the game running flicker-free in the same area on the same save. Per Griffiths, the problem was a “general engine bug/limit being reached,” which means that his fix will “probably help other large bases that had this issue on Xbox.”

The save helped with it, exactly like I’ve been saying this whole time.

No, but they tweeted what they did, it didn’t have to made public by the dev, but they obviously did it for the viral marketing, and then an article picks it up and here we are. Someone is being accused of saying an article is commissioned lmfao.

If every dev that did this tweeted about it, yeah you would hear about it more, but most devs have better things to do than get some stupid marketing for things almost every dev already does.

So I ask you, why else would someone tweet about a mundane thing like fixing a bug?

A lot do, they just don’t make a marketing gimic out of it.

Do you think every little developer is gonna get a spot light for what they do? For every story you hear there’s thousands already doing it and more, but they aren’t popular so they don’t get a little shoutout, other than in their communities.

Go explore some Steam discussions and see the devs in there asking for saves, I don’t know what else to say here, but this isn’t news. Almost any dev will care if you send them a save and a specific issue.

Most games get you to upload your save with a bug report, so that’s entirely not correct.

Yes that’s what happens in most cases….

Using your Example, they actually specify they don’t deal with the issue your brought up!.. holy shit dude, read the article and maybe know what you’re talking about here…?

So what issues would they deal with and why aren’t you dealing with any points that address the actual topic and keep going off on unrelated topics?

WOW also wouldn’t need your save since it’s all online, but games without online saves ask for your save. Maybe this is what’s confusing you about submitting them? Online is automatic lmfao.

Sorry blizzard, not Bethesda.

And actually that’s what the users in this thread are pointing out. It’s far more common than you think, and almost evryr dev has a system for submitting bugs, which game breaking save state issues are included in.

Or are you suggesting they look at OTHER issues, but leave save state issues alone…? That can’t be correct. You submit a bug someone looks at it (what would this be called other than personal assistance…?), just like what happened in the article. So what’s different? You get personal assistant in every case that’s been brought up, and yet you claim there isn’t? So how does it get fixed if someone doesn’t personally look into it? Hrmm?

No one said it was public policy, so why bring that up? And also, why bring up a gold scam as well? That has nothing to do with the article or what’s being discussed.

Most devs have a system to report bugs and someone will personally deal with it, if you want to argue something else go right ahead. Can you provide an example to support what you’re claiming here? That devs don’t want saves and won’t fix bugs and state that somewhere?

Did you read the article? Because this is talking about save issue bugs, not a gold issue.

Even Bethesda Blizzard has a system in place to report this stuff, so it’s incredibly ironic you used them as an example….

How so? Someone looks at your save and fixes the specific issue related to it. You also have to report it for it to be able to be looked at and fixed as well dude…… how else would they know the issue or be able to fix it…?

The only difference is a dev getting some marketing out of it with this specific case. Every save issue bug is a specific issue that needs to be looked at, you are always getting “personal care” with these issues.

Almost every developer has a system to report bugs.

In the old days it was an email or a forum, lots of devs use Steam forums and discord for this exact scenario still in todays age.

Do you have any devs in mind that don’t have a bug reporting feature where they almost always ask for a save?

Right but that’s a hell of a different situation than saying you are on your own, we don’t want your save.

Pretty sure EA/FC has a bug reporting feature if not an email or forum you can use to submit saves and talk about issues and they get looked into.

Not everything CAN be fixed, and sometimes it’s not a “save issue bug”

Why is this news? Do many devs not fix buggy saves?

I’ve sent more than a few to a few different devs at their request, it helps them immensely to have a buggy save, because sometimes they can’t recreate the conditions.

The population of the world is constantly going up, of course the numbers will go up, it should be surprising when it starts declining.

I love how people can stay on topic during a discussion lmfao.

They also willfully broke their contract obligations, the game was only made because of the investment by Sony as well. So they took their money and gave them the middle finger and got their fan bases to bash Sony when it was their doing. But sure make fun of an account I guess?

It was also perfectly clear the first time, the CEO of Arrowhead chose to not make the information as readily available as HE should have. Sonys always had the same stance, but one CEO decided to try and stick it to them, and unfortunately, it worked, but they likely won’t get more work.

He chose to turn the requirement off to fix a glitch on their system. It was a requirement, it was listed, Arrowhead is wholefully to blame

I get the updates from them, it’s coming along nicely, they’ve shown some pictures, but they are also trying to not lose the jank along with the engine upgrade.

Iirc, they are also working on another project too, and that’s further along.

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Viscera Cleanup is so janky, but that’s part of the charm.

On not so super super technical level, being able to see something updating on your screen before your opponents, can give you an advantage. Provided you can also react fast enough for it to matter.

Jesus Christ, sorry for explaining a viewpoint to you.

Is this how you converse with people? Fucking yikes, get help dude…

If you just assume I also had this viewpoint, fuck off lmfao.

Characters that aren’t white men?

You mean what was profitable and what the public wanted at the time…?

You still somehow don’t understand what astroturfing is. But it m not surprised if you’re such a brainless meatball you can’t handle a leading women.

I’m not the same person… fucking yikes buddy. Step away from the keyboard for the day.

Some people feel this being shoved down the throats of the public (hence the astroturfing), no different than the wave of zombies, wave of pirates, wave of X, wave of Y. They are all overdone, and everyone is trying to eat of the public opinion/market. They aren’t doing it for the right reasons, they are doing it for profit. THATS the issue.

Where are the donations to woman’s rights organizations? They don’t handle it right.

It’s the prominent female role during a time of corporations trying to be more accepting, while sometimes going too far.

Astroturfing may not quite be the right term, but Sony definitely had a little agenda while pushing the marketing of this particular IP.

Why not? Lots of games have that already.

What tension? Fans being stupid?

Nintendo is litigious yea, but there’s hundreds of emulators out there that haven’t been sued, they only sue people who do blatantly illegal stuff they can sue them for. What has palworld done that’s illegal?

Emulators are legal, so they leave the legal ones, they go after the ones perpetuating the illegal parks, like Yuzu.

Why not, they are one store front with prolific shovelware still.

I agree, those are those play for the gameplay games, I don’t want to sit in a menu for 20 hours reading lore and still don’t know that I’m missing the necklace that explains why the jesters head was cut off or some stupid shit.

These games are made for some passionate fan to explain the lore in a way for others to grasp and that’s not always a bad thing. Still friggen stupid though.