Over the time people paid for DLCs that don’t even exist anymore.
I remember very well back in the time, they said they’d bring contents back, they’re just “vaulted”, well, now the official continuous development is over, where is the content?
If I understand well, if the development is over, the content won’t come back, this promise doesn’t make any sense anymore.
I know there was a few legal problems for them but it seems they’re still well and alive, how?
Apparently even if you have a physical copy of a game, you’re SoL. Even the physical disc is only just a “license” to play the game. You don’t actually have rights with it apparently.
Which is fucking bullshit. Almost nothing else in the world works like that. Once you own something, it’s yours and you can do whatever the fuck you want with it, except video games.
It’s a perpetual license for your copy of the game. That’s why it’s a license because otherwise you would be buying the game, not just a copy.
It’s just like buying music on CD. You’re only buying a licensed copy.
The big question with this stuff is what would happen if Bungie or any other ‘live-service’ game company were taken to court over their licensing. Bungie has no subscription, everything is a one time purchase and there is no expiration date for the software license sold. In theory they should get destroyed in court but ehhh… capitalism so who knows.
Here’s a great video from the guy that started Stop Killing Games that explains it better than me.
And the purchase I made for the game was basically rendered pointless when they went F2P, there was no thought or talk of that license having an expiration date until the “content vault” happened.
And then the “vault” itself being an entire legal loophole just so they could delete the entire game people paid money for. People say the data still exists somewhere and it would be too much work to update it all to the new engine, but that’s just cope. It doesn’t exist anymore; they had to use third-party evidence, which is inadmissible, in their big court case, which tells me that it doesn’t exist anymore.
I expect it’s the same way game companies have gotten by with “licensing” games to us for so long and remotely disabling them with no recourse. And that’s only just now being fought legally. It’ll be another 15 years before we can expect the average politician to be a gamer the way that the average person watches TV and movies or listens to music.
It’ll be another 15 years before we can expect the average politician to be a gamer the way that the average person watches TV and movies or listens to music.
It’s not like those industries are doing much better on the consumer-front AHEM Ticketmaster COUGH
They also had plenty of trouble because of it. They were sued by a writer who claimed they stole their original D2 “Red War” story from him. D2 and its backend have changed so much that Bungie can’t actually produce a playable version to show this content in court, and the court ruled that YouTube videos will not suffice. Unable to defend the claims.
Destiny 2’s future was canceled as of last week. June 9 is the last update the game ever receives, and it’s all the balance tweaks the team had been planning for the next year, crammed into one update. Sony is also doing significant layoffs at Bungie following that. I wouldn’t call that well.
Marathon itself is a renewal of (if I recall correctly) Bungie’s first major IP before Halo, which was (also if I recall correctly) initially an Apple Macintosh exclusive game.
I think the game is just dying already too, I remember seeing on top 10 most played, but currently it’s not even in the top 100 list. The world is healing.
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Apparently even if you have a physical copy of a game, you’re SoL. Even the physical disc is only just a “license” to play the game. You don’t actually have rights with it apparently.
Which is fucking bullshit. Almost nothing else in the world works like that. Once you own something, it’s yours and you can do whatever the fuck you want with it, except video games.
It’s a perpetual license for your copy of the game. That’s why it’s a license because otherwise you would be buying the game, not just a copy.
It’s just like buying music on CD. You’re only buying a licensed copy.
The big question with this stuff is what would happen if Bungie or any other ‘live-service’ game company were taken to court over their licensing. Bungie has no subscription, everything is a one time purchase and there is no expiration date for the software license sold. In theory they should get destroyed in court but ehhh… capitalism so who knows.
Here’s a great video from the guy that started Stop Killing Games that explains it better than me.
And the purchase I made for the game was basically rendered pointless when they went F2P, there was no thought or talk of that license having an expiration date until the “content vault” happened.
And then the “vault” itself being an entire legal loophole just so they could delete the entire game people paid money for. People say the data still exists somewhere and it would be too much work to update it all to the new engine, but that’s just cope. It doesn’t exist anymore; they had to use third-party evidence, which is inadmissible, in their big court case, which tells me that it doesn’t exist anymore.
What a goddamn shitshow.
Not to say the game changed to free-to-play model, and back in the time they were still selling physical copies of it in the stores, lol.
I expect it’s the same way game companies have gotten by with “licensing” games to us for so long and remotely disabling them with no recourse. And that’s only just now being fought legally. It’ll be another 15 years before we can expect the average politician to be a gamer the way that the average person watches TV and movies or listens to music.
It’s not like those industries are doing much better on the consumer-front AHEM Ticketmaster COUGH
“…still well and alive…” Ouch.
They also had plenty of trouble because of it. They were sued by a writer who claimed they stole their original D2 “Red War” story from him. D2 and its backend have changed so much that Bungie can’t actually produce a playable version to show this content in court, and the court ruled that YouTube videos will not suffice. Unable to defend the claims.
It’s well and alive, they just launched a new game called Marathon and it was on top 10 on Steam most played a few weeks ago.
Destiny 2’s future was canceled as of last week. June 9 is the last update the game ever receives, and it’s all the balance tweaks the team had been planning for the next year, crammed into one update. Sony is also doing significant layoffs at Bungie following that. I wouldn’t call that well.
Marathon itself is a renewal of (if I recall correctly) Bungie’s first major IP before Halo, which was (also if I recall correctly) initially an Apple Macintosh exclusive game.
I think the game is just dying already too, I remember seeing on top 10 most played, but currently it’s not even in the top 100 list. The world is healing.