PC motherboard sales are on track for some of the biggest corrections in recent times as manufacturers struggle with weak demand, according to a DigiTimes report. What began as AI data center expansion quickly started affecting consumer PC DIY endeavors, as severe silicon shortages across the indust...
I don’t think motherboard manufacturers are askign that question. I think they’re asking “why aren’t the RAM manufacturers making enough RAM? Why aren’t the GPU manufacturers making enough GPUs?”
Consumer case manufacturers and power supply manufacturers too. These few oligopolies on key components are screwing over more than just their own consumers.
Yeah, “weak demand” is a bullshit argument. It’s “hey, I’d love to build a new PC but I can’t fucking afford half the components anymore so I’m not getting any”
Its not an argument, its just a description of what is happening.
Weak demand pretty much means ‘less people are buying this thing’.
Its a pretty well known phenomenon that if you raise prices too high, or all your customers become broke in some other way, have their purchasing power diminished… that’s referred to as ‘demand destruction’.
You could also destroy demand if you maybe worsen the quality of the thing you’re selling, but keep the price the same or even raise it.
(cough AAA video games cough)
But, but… I will give you that this kind of phrasing does sound, to the average person, as if it is grammatically obscuring what’s going on, or shifting the blame to consumers.
A lot of business/econ lingo is subtly insidious in that way.
Maybe motherboard manufacturers should’ve been telling off the others so they don’t fuck over the consumers. But they didn’t say a word like all the rest of them. They just sat and watched.
Now they reap their harvest after they ignored the weeds.
Even if it is 10 bucks for a top-of-the-line mobo, people would not buy since new CPU is sold at hefty price, and GPUs, even used ones, are way overpriced to be needing new motherboard.
What is the point of getting new hardware when old hardware (say, 10yo) does well in today’s standards while new hardware cost you an arm and a leg?
Can’t even by HDD, not even SSD, with today’s prices.
Who cares if a MSRP$199 motherboard now costs $239 instead of the $249 it did last month? RAM is still thousands of dollars. GPUs are still thousands of dollars.
There is no point trying to build a PC anymore. Run what you have until the industry collapses, and only spend any money on indie games. The industry has chosen to fuck you over completely. Never forget that.
Most of these manufacturers will go out of business by the time the AI bubble bursts and you still won’t be able to buy one for a reasonable amount. They’re intentionally destroying the market so you’re forced into cheap cloud-based devices they can force you into contracts to run.
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So now they’ll be cheaper, right?
GPU - now the price of a 5 year old Toyota.
RAM - 10x price hike in the last year
CPUs - prices increasing faster than processing speed
Economy - destroyed
Wages - stagnant
Social contract for young adults - Broken
Motherboard manufacturers - “why is no one buying our products?”
I don’t think motherboard manufacturers are askign that question. I think they’re asking “why aren’t the RAM manufacturers making enough RAM? Why aren’t the GPU manufacturers making enough GPUs?”
Consumer case manufacturers and power supply manufacturers too. These few oligopolies on key components are screwing over more than just their own consumers.
Fair point there.
Yeah, “weak demand” is a bullshit argument. It’s “hey, I’d love to build a new PC but I can’t fucking afford half the components anymore so I’m not getting any”
I mean, its econ/business lingo.
Its not an argument, its just a description of what is happening.
Weak demand pretty much means ‘less people are buying this thing’.
Its a pretty well known phenomenon that if you raise prices too high, or all your customers become broke in some other way, have their purchasing power diminished… that’s referred to as ‘demand destruction’.
You could also destroy demand if you maybe worsen the quality of the thing you’re selling, but keep the price the same or even raise it.
(cough AAA video games cough)
But, but… I will give you that this kind of phrasing does sound, to the average person, as if it is grammatically obscuring what’s going on, or shifting the blame to consumers.
A lot of business/econ lingo is subtly insidious in that way.
Maybe motherboard manufacturers should’ve been telling off the others so they don’t fuck over the consumers. But they didn’t say a word like all the rest of them. They just sat and watched.
Now they reap their harvest after they ignored the weeds.
Well when you put it like that, I see why the manufacturers are so confused…
One step closer to all computers being streamed from a data centre to a screen. Just as the big companies want. “You will own nothing and be happy”
So… you’re gonna lower the price, right?
Right?
Lifetime of building my own PCs, the price of the mobo has NEVER been the biggest cost of a build
Why buy a mobo if you can’t afford the components to make it useful?
Even if it is 10 bucks for a top-of-the-line mobo, people would not buy since new CPU is sold at hefty price, and GPUs, even used ones, are way overpriced to be needing new motherboard.
What is the point of getting new hardware when old hardware (say, 10yo) does well in today’s standards while new hardware cost you an arm and a leg?
Can’t even by HDD, not even SSD, with today’s prices.
No shit dude. Lowering a mobo price will do nothing because that isn’t the budget breaker. Never has been.
Niche products have declining demand and rising prices.
The hobby has been slowly dying ever since the demise of Moore’s law slowed the pace of development.
Used to be the new computer cost about the same and was 4x faster. Not as much fun to pay more for incremental gains.
I’ve heard that prices of motherboards are decreasing
Who cares if a MSRP$199 motherboard now costs $239 instead of the $249 it did last month? RAM is still thousands of dollars. GPUs are still thousands of dollars.
There is no point trying to build a PC anymore. Run what you have until the industry collapses, and only spend any money on indie games. The industry has chosen to fuck you over completely. Never forget that.
Most of these manufacturers will go out of business by the time the AI bubble bursts and you still won’t be able to buy one for a reasonable amount. They’re intentionally destroying the market so you’re forced into cheap cloud-based devices they can force you into contracts to run.
I will play DND through the fucking post office before I do that.
Does everybody still think the bubble will burst? I honestly don’t think it will…
Every bubble pops. It’s just a question of when.
Makes sense I suppose
Who is buying a new motherboard if all the other components are significantly overpriced?
At least for me, I only get a new motherboard if I want a new CPU that my current doesn’t support
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