Well yeah but the same thing applies regardless. Every time CoD tried to “innovate”, outside of Black Ops 2, resulted in players complaining endlessly and/or poor sales. And I say this as someone who HATES milsim obsessed manchildren who demand every FPS franchise cater to them, despite most of them already doing it. Those mfs will straight up say anything futuristic “looks like a mobile game” as if we can’t look past their buzzwords. I blame their bullshit for the failure of Titanfall 2 and CoD Infinite Warfare, which did have an EXCELLENT campaign. But, regardless of that: FPS players don’t want their favorite game to change too much in terms of raw gameplay. This has been a thing you can observe for decades. Hell, people still play Dust 2 the almost exact same way as in 2001.
It was absolutely insane that they decided to do it this way in the first place. It wasn’t perfect before, but at least having multiple teams on rotation gave them some time to cook their own game.
But now Treyarch had to help with vanguard zombies (and also mw zombies I think?) while developing their own game, while also developing their own game for the next year
I’ve enjoyed playing cod since I was a kid but this shit has been a clown fest for years now
Problem is, Treyarch were the only competent studio after all of IW left. So they have been constantly called in to help to clean up the mess the other studios keep making.
Now development on the games is split across Activision studios all over the world, so the chance of there ever being a coherent self contained experience again is basically zero. Their scope got too big and they couldnt find the right people to take it on.
This year competition excuted well in the same launch window. Arc Raiders and Battlefield, I have played neither, people seem happy with. Looking at Steam charts, Delta Force looks popular too and CS is always popular. It’s taken like 15 years but the not Call of Duty and not sort of weird gunplay in modern times/military shooters compared to Counter Strike (I play counter strike and I know it’s gunplay and movement are weird and harsh for newcomers) are hitting their strides. Call of Duty is facing the best most suitable amount of competition since the first modern warfare
Remember the “Call of Duty games are DLC” jokes? Well that is literally what they have become. There’s no soul in them anymore. They are just a vessel to sell skins.
MW3 was the one where Russia invades the US, right? That one was good. I think the next one, BO2, was the last one I played. After that, they really fell into the rut of minor iteration.
I might get around to playing some of the others that aren’t in the “high tech” genre. Apparently there was one set during Desert Storm.
The new games aren’t all bad for the campaigns. MW2019 was pretty good and Black Ops 6 had a really fun campaign, it had a pretty good story too at least til the end.
Infinite warfare was great, at least the story mode: they went completely off the rails and let you choose where your spaceship goes for the next mission
"“We will drive innovation that is meaningful, not incremental.”
Gotcha, so same time next year? What do you mean innovate? I played BO6’s campaign because it was free and I said fuck it why not, and it was clear to me that the devs would rather do anything else than a CoD campaign.
You can’t really innovate, CoD is creatively bankrupt it has been for years, are you going to go back to WW2 again?
The new MW3 was literally just an expansion pack for the new MW2 sold for full price.
Same as BO6/7. People are only willing to be milked so much. It’s why when people say what their favorite CoD is, the oldest game mentioned is Black Ops 2
Depends what generation you ask, because a lot of the CoD audience now, never even played Black Ops 2. Which I agree, was the last good game, I’ll give credit to BO3 for it’s amazing zombies experience, with mod tools on PC, which was a surprise.
As a huge zombies fan who has skipped every game since BO3; I kinda hope they never make a good game that I feel like I want to play ever again… Because it won’t run on Linux and I don’t want to dual boot or get a console 😅
Yah it’s nothing like CoD Zombies, but it IS a zombie game, and it’s made by just two people trying to make a quality survival game and it’s obviously a work of passion worth supporting.
I haven’t bought a big company release in years at this point. There are so, so many good indie games being made right now, this will be a nostalgia point for kids someday, back when there were was a flood of games and half were huge, bloated AAA wastes of money that nobody liked, and the other half were amazing, weird, experimental concept ideas produced in low fidelity and released for $5 - $20.
I saw it had robots and shit and noped out of even thinking about buying it.
I can’t keep up with what the current cod game is, they’re wannabee super hero babesgames which bear zero resemblance to the original games. It’s a characature at this point.
I just think the game looks and plays bad. I’m clearly not the target demographic, but the older COD games I grew up with are a completely different tone/style/game to the modern arcade shooters.
I said I noped out of it, not that everyone should.
Here lies the problem: A lot of FPS players literally only want ONE fucking tone for EVERY FPS, which is like. Serious-looking milsim appearance that takes place in the present day. That’s it. They’ll literally attack any futuristic game as “it’s a mobile game” and “not realistic”, as if that should be the only thing that dictates if an FPS is good or not. I for one am tired of it, especially considering most of the people who are extremely anal about that are either chuds or fascists who want to roleplay as a super soldier fighting for the good ol’ US of A. So when people constantly talk about how “ah this thing has robots I don’t want to play it” it immediately triggers that suspicion in me.
Not to mention, this whole obsession with “realism” to me is absolutely stupid. I don’t need to see literally every pore on an old man’s face for my game to feel good. Hell, you have games like Hades II, Silksong, MOTHER 3, and a fuckton of other games that are just extremely good that none of those people try because they’re not realistic.
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From the company that brings you the same fucking game year over year, with paid dlc to get the same maps from old games again.
How about let’s not do yearly installments?
What ya’ shoulda been doing the whole time.
Meanwhile if CS players have ANYTHING change in the game they throw a fit… “innovation” does not enhance FPS franchises, it breaks them.
CS players aren’t having to pay for a new game every year either.
Well yeah but the same thing applies regardless. Every time CoD tried to “innovate”, outside of Black Ops 2, resulted in players complaining endlessly and/or poor sales. And I say this as someone who HATES milsim obsessed manchildren who demand every FPS franchise cater to them, despite most of them already doing it. Those mfs will straight up say anything futuristic “looks like a mobile game” as if we can’t look past their buzzwords. I blame their bullshit for the failure of Titanfall 2 and CoD Infinite Warfare, which did have an EXCELLENT campaign. But, regardless of that: FPS players don’t want their favorite game to change too much in terms of raw gameplay. This has been a thing you can observe for decades. Hell, people still play Dust 2 the almost exact same way as in 2001.
That… That’s not the issue lol.
It was absolutely insane that they decided to do it this way in the first place. It wasn’t perfect before, but at least having multiple teams on rotation gave them some time to cook their own game.
But now Treyarch had to help with vanguard zombies (and also mw zombies I think?) while developing their own game, while also developing their own game for the next year
I’ve enjoyed playing cod since I was a kid but this shit has been a clown fest for years now
Problem is, Treyarch were the only competent studio after all of IW left. So they have been constantly called in to help to clean up the mess the other studios keep making.
Now development on the games is split across Activision studios all over the world, so the chance of there ever being a coherent self contained experience again is basically zero. Their scope got too big and they couldnt find the right people to take it on.
I quit when they added fucking dabbing and dumbass skins for money. I just wanted to play like back in the day on my 360
This year competition excuted well in the same launch window. Arc Raiders and Battlefield, I have played neither, people seem happy with. Looking at Steam charts, Delta Force looks popular too and CS is always popular. It’s taken like 15 years but the not Call of Duty and not sort of weird gunplay in modern times/military shooters compared to Counter Strike (I play counter strike and I know it’s gunplay and movement are weird and harsh for newcomers) are hitting their strides. Call of Duty is facing the best most suitable amount of competition since the first modern warfare
Back to back releases isnt the problem.
Remember the “Call of Duty games are DLC” jokes? Well that is literally what they have become. There’s no soul in them anymore. They are just a vessel to sell skins.
CoD4 came out in 2007. There’s more than one series in Cod lineup. Nothing will change, there will still be a CoD per year.
I think it may be time to install CoD4 again. Damn was that campaign good.
Why not CoD2?
MW3 was the one where Russia invades the US, right? That one was good. I think the next one, BO2, was the last one I played. After that, they really fell into the rut of minor iteration.
I might get around to playing some of the others that aren’t in the “high tech” genre. Apparently there was one set during Desert Storm.
The new games aren’t all bad for the campaigns. MW2019 was pretty good and Black Ops 6 had a really fun campaign, it had a pretty good story too at least til the end.
Infinite warfare was great, at least the story mode: they went completely off the rails and let you choose where your spaceship goes for the next mission
Why not CoD:UO? (Please play with us, most unique CoD and servers still online!)
CoD University of Oregon?
United Offensive. Expansion pack to the first CoD, exclusive to PC
"“We will drive innovation that is meaningful, not incremental.”
Gotcha, so same time next year? What do you mean innovate? I played BO6’s campaign because it was free and I said fuck it why not, and it was clear to me that the devs would rather do anything else than a CoD campaign.
You can’t really innovate, CoD is creatively bankrupt it has been for years, are you going to go back to WW2 again?
Lol now gamepass is going to be $40/month in 3 months.
Look what you all made Microsoft do!!
Yeah sure you are. You said that shit before.
The new MW3 was literally just an expansion pack for the new MW2 sold for full price.
Same as BO6/7. People are only willing to be milked so much. It’s why when people say what their favorite CoD is, the oldest game mentioned is Black Ops 2
Depends what generation you ask, because a lot of the CoD audience now, never even played Black Ops 2. Which I agree, was the last good game, I’ll give credit to BO3 for it’s amazing zombies experience, with mod tools on PC, which was a surprise.
As a huge zombies fan who has skipped every game since BO3; I kinda hope they never make a good game that I feel like I want to play ever again… Because it won’t run on Linux and I don’t want to dual boot or get a console 😅
Go buy Vein on Steam.
Yah it’s nothing like CoD Zombies, but it IS a zombie game, and it’s made by just two people trying to make a quality survival game and it’s obviously a work of passion worth supporting.
I haven’t bought a big company release in years at this point. There are so, so many good indie games being made right now, this will be a nostalgia point for kids someday, back when there were was a flood of games and half were huge, bloated AAA wastes of money that nobody liked, and the other half were amazing, weird, experimental concept ideas produced in low fidelity and released for $5 - $20.
Seems sweet! I’ve been enjoying Sker Ritual lately
I saw it had robots and shit and noped out of even thinking about buying it.
I can’t keep up with what the current cod game is, they’re wannabee super hero
babesgames which bear zero resemblance to the original games. It’s a characature at this point.Edit: fixed autocorrect typo.
*charcuterie
Anything that pisses off milsim obsessed manchildren is a win in my eyes. You have hundreds of games at your disposal, go play them.
Huh?
I just think the game looks and plays bad. I’m clearly not the target demographic, but the older COD games I grew up with are a completely different tone/style/game to the modern arcade shooters.
I said I noped out of it, not that everyone should.
Here lies the problem: A lot of FPS players literally only want ONE fucking tone for EVERY FPS, which is like. Serious-looking milsim appearance that takes place in the present day. That’s it. They’ll literally attack any futuristic game as “it’s a mobile game” and “not realistic”, as if that should be the only thing that dictates if an FPS is good or not. I for one am tired of it, especially considering most of the people who are extremely anal about that are either chuds or fascists who want to roleplay as a super soldier fighting for the good ol’ US of A. So when people constantly talk about how “ah this thing has robots I don’t want to play it” it immediately triggers that suspicion in me.
Not to mention, this whole obsession with “realism” to me is absolutely stupid. I don’t need to see literally every pore on an old man’s face for my game to feel good. Hell, you have games like Hades II, Silksong, MOTHER 3, and a fuckton of other games that are just extremely good that none of those people try because they’re not realistic.
huh, reminds me, i should get around to playing some over-detailed probably-not-actually-fun Arma-like sometime