I’d argue it’s the exact opposite - it’s pretty good by Bethesda standards (in that it’s relatively stable with lots of the kinds of content Bethesda likes to add), but bad by most other standards
Weighing in with my anecdote: none of my friends were that excited about it. Lots of friends, even ones who are kind of casual about games or don’t prioritize them as much as they used to, were real excited about Baldur’s gate 3.
Nothing I heard about starfield made it sound especially new or exciting. I’ll probably get it when it’s on sale for cheap, but I paid full price for bg3 and felt like it was worth it.
As someone who basically finished it (was putting off the final mission until I wrapped up the side quests, but then got bored and haven’t bothered to pick it back up to finish it) I think waiting for a sale is the best choice
For one thing, by then there will be mods, and this game desperately needs some mods to make it better, lots of QoL issues or half-assed gameplay that could be improved by mods
But it also is pretty much as you describe, it’s a fine game, but nothing to really get excited about. I had some fun with it, I also got bored of it pretty quickly. And for a game whose story is literallt built around the concept of Newgame+, there’s very little reason to actually do one, because there aren’t many different routes you can go - you can really only play as “Savior of the Galaxy”, every other playstyle you might try leaves you actively fighting against the game
If I picked it up for less than $40, id call it money well spent on an alright game that can kill a week or two of evenings, but for full price I’m left feeling a bit ripped off
Phantom liberty on the other hand is a straight up BANGER, Cyberpunk is so much fun. Played Starfield for a bit then PL dropped and I don’t think I’ve thought about it once since then haha.
I confess, as a total scifi nerd - I fucking loved the over engineered doors in this game lol - I swear I think they hired a whole team whose job was to do nothing but make doors lol
Make sure you also get the mod that speeds up the sound FX. Speeding up the doors was a good QOL for me, though I think it also affected the death animations… the final killing shot on an enemy made their dying animation happen ridiculously fast after installing that mod. Or maybe it was happening all along and I just never noticed until I became OP
It’s already dropped off Steam’s Top Seller list. Big name developer, lots of hype, kind of mediocre game. Not actively bad, so it didn’t get the CP2077 hate, just nothing special.
And for a game where exploration is a major theme, exploration is pretty strongly disincentivized. I gotta spend 3 minutes holding W to get to the closest point of interest from whatever my landing site was, and there’s nothing but empty planet and a couple lead nodes in between? Or I can just pull up the quest and fast travel to the desto, skipping all the walking and loading screens?
There was also the $30 I think upgrade for game pass. Which I think gave the early access and expansion pass. So even if game pass downloads don’t count, upgrades probably do.
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Good by any other standards than Bethesda’s.
Ha, right.
You mean “only good by the bethesda standard, and fails any other metric test”
I’d argue it’s the exact opposite - it’s pretty good by Bethesda standards (in that it’s relatively stable with lots of the kinds of content Bethesda likes to add), but bad by most other standards
Weighing in with my anecdote: none of my friends were that excited about it. Lots of friends, even ones who are kind of casual about games or don’t prioritize them as much as they used to, were real excited about Baldur’s gate 3.
Nothing I heard about starfield made it sound especially new or exciting. I’ll probably get it when it’s on sale for cheap, but I paid full price for bg3 and felt like it was worth it.
As someone who basically finished it (was putting off the final mission until I wrapped up the side quests, but then got bored and haven’t bothered to pick it back up to finish it) I think waiting for a sale is the best choice
For one thing, by then there will be mods, and this game desperately needs some mods to make it better, lots of QoL issues or half-assed gameplay that could be improved by mods
But it also is pretty much as you describe, it’s a fine game, but nothing to really get excited about. I had some fun with it, I also got bored of it pretty quickly. And for a game whose story is literallt built around the concept of Newgame+, there’s very little reason to actually do one, because there aren’t many different routes you can go - you can really only play as “Savior of the Galaxy”, every other playstyle you might try leaves you actively fighting against the game
If I picked it up for less than $40, id call it money well spent on an alright game that can kill a week or two of evenings, but for full price I’m left feeling a bit ripped off
Phantom liberty on the other hand is a straight up BANGER, Cyberpunk is so much fun. Played Starfield for a bit then PL dropped and I don’t think I’ve thought about it once since then haha.
I’ve been meaning to check it out, I’ll have to bump it up the list
I don’t even own the game yet but after watching one gameplay video, i looked to see if there’s a mod to speed up the airlock doors. Thankfully yes.
I confess, as a total scifi nerd - I fucking loved the over engineered doors in this game lol - I swear I think they hired a whole team whose job was to do nothing but make doors lol
Make sure you also get the mod that speeds up the sound FX. Speeding up the doors was a good QOL for me, though I think it also affected the death animations… the final killing shot on an enemy made their dying animation happen ridiculously fast after installing that mod. Or maybe it was happening all along and I just never noticed until I became OP
And I have stopped playing and won’t pick it up again unless they make some big changes. So much for having the longevity of Skyrim.
It’s already dropped off Steam’s Top Seller list. Big name developer, lots of hype, kind of mediocre game. Not actively bad, so it didn’t get the CP2077 hate, just nothing special.
And for a game where exploration is a major theme, exploration is pretty strongly disincentivized. I gotta spend 3 minutes holding W to get to the closest point of interest from whatever my landing site was, and there’s nothing but empty planet and a couple lead nodes in between? Or I can just pull up the quest and fast travel to the desto, skipping all the walking and loading screens?
Was BG3 on the Top Sellers list longer than a month?
It’s still there.
Ironically CP77 has better steam ratings at its launch that starfield has.
It came with my framework laptop gpu. Wonder if that counts towards sales.
Pretty sure it does, same with bundled gpus
There was also the $30 I think upgrade for game pass. Which I think gave the early access and expansion pass. So even if game pass downloads don’t count, upgrades probably do.