All the third market player in the GPU space is doing is eating AMD at the low/mid range while Nvidia eats the high range. The competitive landscape has not improved one bit. General financial problems at Intel make it a high probability that the dGPU division will be scrapped out of necessity before accomplishing anything.
It’s sad, but I don’t think the dGPU market is capable of sustaining more than two players.
AMD is losing in every ‘range’ and there’s a million and five reasons for it, but it’s absurd to blame Intel for it.
They made a lot of poor decisions (from this specific perspective, which isn’t the whole picture) and it has nothing to do with ‘the dGPU market being incapable of sustaining more than two players’
The competitive landscape has not improved one bit.
Except it is when you consider price/performance for the range of cards most people buy.
XX60 and XX70 class cards are where most sales are, and that’s where all 3 companies have something to offer
The main issue is that the average consumer is dumb and keeps buying Nvidia, even though both AMD and Intel have better price/performance and often just more performant in that class due to Nvidia cheaping out on vram. Consumers are treating Nvidia cards as a luxury brand, like iPhones
Part of the problem is that historically, AMD was just flat out bad. Its no so much as thinking of Nvidia as a luxury brand as not even realizing AMD or Intel are valid options. Even if things get better, it will take time for public sentiment to shift, given that people aren’t replacing their computers often.
For example, I got a Vega 56 for cheap near the end of the generation. I had constant issues with it’s drivers, and my whole friend group was obviously exposed to them when we played games together. Seeing that, reasonably, they decided they wanted to stay away. Given that my friend group is relatively technical, they’re opening up to AMD again as people say the issues have improved, but if I had a less cheap and less technical friend group, that experience would have completely burnt that bridge.
16GB is great for current market, most games can’t even break it at 4k max settings right now, and even with the most demanding titles it’s enough for 1440p max settings with 60+fps. It’ll be great for 1440 for a couple generations, and if it’s in the budget or low-mid tier, where Intel needs to establish themselves, why is that bad? Nobody is expecting Intel to come out with a card right now that’s competing with a 40/5090.
NVIDIA seems to struggle to even make 16GB cards at all, let alone ones that aren’t outrageously high dollar MSRP. AMD has good ones but they’re all priced fairly poorly right now.
If Intel just releases a boring 16GB card but prices it competitively and produces enough that people can find them, that is NOT yawn that’s BIG NEWS because we need a competitor to bring the market back from crazy town where it’s been living since the cryptomining shortages.
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All the third market player in the GPU space is doing is eating AMD at the low/mid range while Nvidia eats the high range. The competitive landscape has not improved one bit. General financial problems at Intel make it a high probability that the dGPU division will be scrapped out of necessity before accomplishing anything.
It’s sad, but I don’t think the dGPU market is capable of sustaining more than two players.
AMD is losing in every ‘range’ and there’s a million and five reasons for it, but it’s absurd to blame Intel for it.
They made a lot of poor decisions (from this specific perspective, which isn’t the whole picture) and it has nothing to do with ‘the dGPU market being incapable of sustaining more than two players’
Except it is when you consider price/performance for the range of cards most people buy.
XX60 and XX70 class cards are where most sales are, and that’s where all 3 companies have something to offer
The main issue is that the average consumer is dumb and keeps buying Nvidia, even though both AMD and Intel have better price/performance and often just more performant in that class due to Nvidia cheaping out on vram. Consumers are treating Nvidia cards as a luxury brand, like iPhones
Part of the problem is that historically, AMD was just flat out bad. Its no so much as thinking of Nvidia as a luxury brand as not even realizing AMD or Intel are valid options. Even if things get better, it will take time for public sentiment to shift, given that people aren’t replacing their computers often.
For example, I got a Vega 56 for cheap near the end of the generation. I had constant issues with it’s drivers, and my whole friend group was obviously exposed to them when we played games together. Seeing that, reasonably, they decided they wanted to stay away. Given that my friend group is relatively technical, they’re opening up to AMD again as people say the issues have improved, but if I had a less cheap and less technical friend group, that experience would have completely burnt that bridge.
Bring it Intel!
Hell yeah.
How well do intel cards work on Linux?
I’ve been using an ArcB580 for a few months and am very satisfied so far. (Using Pop_os). It’s been very stable.
Keeping an eye on this
too little too late. the next competition for NVIDIA and AMD will be from mainland China I’m afraid.
How?
Their hardware won’t ever be as advanced, but the price will be cheaper.
16GB of VRAM 🙄
Yawn
16GB is great for current market, most games can’t even break it at 4k max settings right now, and even with the most demanding titles it’s enough for 1440p max settings with 60+fps. It’ll be great for 1440 for a couple generations, and if it’s in the budget or low-mid tier, where Intel needs to establish themselves, why is that bad? Nobody is expecting Intel to come out with a card right now that’s competing with a 40/5090.
NVIDIA seems to struggle to even make 16GB cards at all, let alone ones that aren’t outrageously high dollar MSRP. AMD has good ones but they’re all priced fairly poorly right now.
If Intel just releases a boring 16GB card but prices it competitively and produces enough that people can find them, that is NOT yawn that’s BIG NEWS because we need a competitor to bring the market back from crazy town where it’s been living since the cryptomining shortages.
Are you playing on an 8K display or something?
For their performance level that’s fine though?
They have separate AI accelerator cards I believe?
If the price is good then it’s fine. Intel already has the funny ai card that maxsun makes.
You need AI accelerators, not GPUs.
Gaming is about to start requiring more VRAM too because of local AI. The two will become inseparable.
I hate this timeline.