Yeah I have a version of Madden from 2015 that works perfectly fine and seems to be more or less the same game, have been very happy with it. I refuse to pay $70 for a game that I know is riddled with microtransactions for really… nothing else changing
I am curious as to why you say the game riddled with microtransactions? The only microtransactions I have ever seen is the card pack shit and that is incredibly easy to not pay for by just playing the other 95% of gameplay features they offer in the game that are completely free of microtransactions.
Part of me wants to argue that the games industry has a long-standing history of under-compensating workers, which makes being within the top 25% not particularly impressive, but instead I’m just going to admit that you caught me ragging on EA with an easy jab.
They did lay off a shed load of workers earlier this year mere days after announcing record profits though. Still, they’re not quite the miserable black hole that they were in the ‘EA Widows’ era when they were forcing unpaid overtime on a straight up illegal level.
EAs CEO makes $20MM. They have 13k employees. That’s an $1100 raise, give or take, if you take every penny from the CEO. For the vast majority of their employees, that is less than a 1% raise.
So no, it won’t get you both, in any meaningful sense.
Edit: And yes, if you are not productive, you get paid less. That’s the whole point. If you are not 100x productive, you don’t deserve to get 100x the wages of a regular employee too.
Capitalism works. There are markets who will pay for these and that’s why they are made. That’s what capitalism is.
If not for capitalism, these games wouldn’t even exist.
Now, the issue I think you’re worried about is that people begrudgingly pay for the game when they don’t really want to. Or pay more than they want to for it.
That’s not capitalism, that’s FOMO.
People make a ton of shit everyday that I don’t buy. But obviously someone is out there paying for this shit, or it wouldn’t be being made.
What do I care, or what do you care about it enough to even address?
If people don’t buy it, it either gets cheaper or it’s not made at all. So just don’t buy it. I haven’t bought a sports game in 20 years because of this. But they keep making them and people keep complaining about them.
Complain about yourselves, it’s not capitalism, it’s the consumers.
I loved sports games growing up, but they are absolutely terrible now. Over priced, full of cash grabs and needlessly complex. I just want to hit x to pass. I don’t want a fucking story line, I just want to play the game.
Let’s say you score a 20$ ticket to a 3.5 hour game. That comes to $5.7 per hour of entertainment. Meanwhile, this game at $70 means you only need to put in 12.5 hours of playtime to get the equivalent, and after you can continue to play as much as you want unlike the in-person ticketed experience.
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Yeah I have a version of Madden from 2015 that works perfectly fine and seems to be more or less the same game, have been very happy with it. I refuse to pay $70 for a game that I know is riddled with microtransactions for really… nothing else changing
I am curious as to why you say the game riddled with microtransactions? The only microtransactions I have ever seen is the card pack shit and that is incredibly easy to not pay for by just playing the other 95% of gameplay features they offer in the game that are completely free of microtransactions.
Gotta pick one chief.
EA chose neither.
Do you have a source on that? Because EA pays in the top 20-25% for their market.
https://www.comparably.com/companies/electronic-arts-e/salaries
Part of me wants to argue that the games industry has a long-standing history of under-compensating workers, which makes being within the top 25% not particularly impressive, but instead I’m just going to admit that you caught me ragging on EA with an easy jab.
They did lay off a shed load of workers earlier this year mere days after announcing record profits though. Still, they’re not quite the miserable black hole that they were in the ‘EA Widows’ era when they were forcing unpaid overtime on a straight up illegal level.
Cut the CEOs’ pay and you’ll be able to get both
EAs CEO makes $20MM. They have 13k employees. That’s an $1100 raise, give or take, if you take every penny from the CEO. For the vast majority of their employees, that is less than a 1% raise.
So no, it won’t get you both, in any meaningful sense.
I am pretty sure we don’t need to raise every employee’s wages. Some of the upper management who sit in their offices biting nails, for example.
The point is to reduce the wage inequality inside a company.
So you want to raise the wages of the people making $140k per year but not $170k?
Why?
Where did you pull those numbers from, then?
Edit: And yes, if you are not productive, you get paid less. That’s the whole point. If you are not 100x productive, you don’t deserve to get 100x the wages of a regular employee too.
I googled median EA wages (gave me median, top 75%, etc), EA CEO pay and number of employees at EA and then did division
People do not get paid based on production but based on value.
No yearly release should be $70.
At this his point they could start charging $100 a year for it and I wouldn’t even blame them.
I got Madden 22 for free. It was the first Madden I’ve played since the 360. It was fun for about half a season and then everything falls apart.
Are you maddening?
God look at those crusty ass grass textures, def not $70 material
Same for FIFA. Or EAFC.
And yet for years sports fans have enjoyed themselves.
Christ you fuckers are pushy.
IT’S NOT FOR YOU. GET OVER IT.
Elitist twat.
Lolol YOU’RE (royal) the one constantly telling Madden fans how dumb they are. 🤷♂️
The fuck are you talking about, they do that themselves.
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Not gonna lie, Madden shouldn’t even be 7 dollars.
Madden is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it.
I’m reliably informed by people who really hate Overwatch that thinking like this makes you a chump for capitalism who is ruining the industry.
Capitalism works. There are markets who will pay for these and that’s why they are made. That’s what capitalism is.
If not for capitalism, these games wouldn’t even exist.
Now, the issue I think you’re worried about is that people begrudgingly pay for the game when they don’t really want to. Or pay more than they want to for it.
That’s not capitalism, that’s FOMO.
People make a ton of shit everyday that I don’t buy. But obviously someone is out there paying for this shit, or it wouldn’t be being made.
What do I care, or what do you care about it enough to even address?
If people don’t buy it, it either gets cheaper or it’s not made at all. So just don’t buy it. I haven’t bought a sports game in 20 years because of this. But they keep making them and people keep complaining about them.
Complain about yourselves, it’s not capitalism, it’s the consumers.
Uh, I thought I was being pretty clear that I wasn’t the crazed anticapitalist, but I guess Poe’s Law.
I loved sports games growing up, but they are absolutely terrible now. Over priced, full of cash grabs and needlessly complex. I just want to hit x to pass. I don’t want a fucking story line, I just want to play the game.
Madden is so dumb its literally the same game with one feature taken out and one feature reintroduced every year
This post reminded me, probably time for a new softdrinktv video on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/ka0OQPTr8rA
Let me share a secret with you: Madden (Year) is the same game as Madden (Year-1).
Typically yeah but this year is actually the first time PC is getting the next gen version ps5/xs have had since 21
Wait, if I rename my Madden1.exe to Madden23.exe will I get the latest game?
… You’re gonna need to rename to madden25.exe
Thanks. I feel like, I just saved 70$.
PS3 NCAA 14 blows next gen Madden out of the water. It’s not even close.
NFL 2K5 is the GOAT NFL game.
“SportGame (Year-1) is literally unplayable because my favorite player is no longer in Team X.”
– Every sport sim players
You can get cheaper tickets to a real game.
Maybe nosebleeds at a bottom 5 NFL team, and even that is questionable. Football tickets are very expensive these days.
Let’s say you score a 20$ ticket to a 3.5 hour game. That comes to $5.7 per hour of entertainment. Meanwhile, this game at $70 means you only need to put in 12.5 hours of playtime to get the equivalent, and after you can continue to play as much as you want unlike the in-person ticketed experience.
lol have you seen ticket prices lately?