Not the same instability that's affecting desktop Raptor Lake and Raptor Lake Refresh processors

In comparison. Some time ago when the amd Ryzen 5600 was new, i bought one. There was a bios upgrade problem with some boards, you needed to upgrade the board, otherwise the cpu wouldn’t work. To solve this issue, Amd themselve sent me a cpu to be able to do the bios update myself. I was impressed they did this for someone who bought the cheapest cpu of the new line (it was about 100€)

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*Pats my all AMD system on its chassis.


(Its a joke, don’t fanboy for corporations)

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I’m just glad that there is another option.

Virtually me: "teenage amd linux fangirl

Estebiu
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AI…

Obviously. I’m not an Artist.

Estebiu
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Then don’t do art. But that’s only my two cents

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How dare they not commission a piece.

Lucy :3
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Yeah. I’m not going to pay 50+ bucks, wait a few days and have direct human interaction for a bad joke on the internet

Either Intel is extremely incompetent and genuinely has no idea what is causing this problem or it knows full well is doing all it can to drag this out and avoid recalls. This saga has been going on all year now this is getting ridiculous.

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I’d imagine chip design is sufficiently complex that you could both be competent and not have a fucking clue what’s causing this. A recall is bound to be cheaper than the impact this is going to have on customer trust. Not only are they the lower performance chips, they’re buggy lower performance chips.

They have a clue…probably had a clue before they shipped. I chat up the engineers where I work and they always figure out the what, how and why somethings fucked when more than expected failures pop up on a wafer or God forbid in the customer’s production units like a car or radar or medical equipment.

Ask the c suite, they’ll say no clue. Ask the engineers, they’ll say give me x time and I’ll tell you why.

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All I can say is I would absolutely not buy an Intel processor right now and maybe not for the next few years.

It’s just not worth the hassle finding out in six months that your system is unstable and you need to change the processor to fix it, and not knowing if that new chip is any better than the one you just removed.

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If these are known common problems, shouldn’t Intel have accounted for them in their chip design?

Are the Core Ultra mobile chips affected as well?

Intel gave more detail to Tom’s Hardware and they updated the article up top. This still sounds a little disingenuous to me, like they’re still trying to minimize the issue with words and no action.

Gamer’s Nexus has a recent video with some possible explanations.

AMD is faster, more efficient and now even less likely to crash.

Why is anybody still buying Intel?

So all their products are breaking…

To be honest, I’m not sure if it would be more concerning for them to have just one fatal issue with their process, or two unrelated ones.

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Indeed. This is giving me distinctly Boeing vibes.

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the boeing 686™ series processors, new from intel.

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