On the upside, the evaporation of availability for high-end consumer hardware might lead to a renaissance in more reasonable hardware requirements for software. There’s a lot of stuff we managed to do 20 or 30 years ago without anywhere near as much overhead. The indie gaming market already shows there’s plenty of room for companies to work with more modest overhead.
That’s a fair point. I feel that PC gaming was in a peak of consumerism with ridiculous prices and never ending “upgrades” so it’ll be interesting to see if anything changes. I hope it does and some of that knowledge/skill and enthusiasm for optimisation comes back.
A certain amount of this seems to be happening anyway just because the culture at AAA studios is so inimical to gaming in general. Looking at a game like Peak, I don’t see any indication that the devs went out of their way to reduce hardware requirements, but it’s less intensive than major releases anyway. Companies not having the resources to spend years working on super detailed massive environments may end up working in their favor.
Honestly, I think something like Peak ends up feeling more intentional and well executed than something like Cyberpunk 2077. Peak’s jank feels like it’s just part of how the game is supposed to be, whereas Cyberpunk they put so much effort into some aspects that it’s weird and jarring when you run into those things that break verisimilitude. But if Cyberpunk looked like it was designed by an indie dev with good enough but not state of the art graphics? I probably wouldn’t notice some of the issues as much. Also I feel like there wouldn’t be as much corporate involvement leading to the kind of hand-holding that shows up in Phantom Liberty.
This is headed toward devolving into me complaining about feeling like I’m not in half the scenes that revolve around Idris Elba rather than V, but you get the point!
I don’t find that. I had to upgrade our corporate machine to best on market work station to run 11 properly and its still chugs. It’s also noticeable slower with apps, a downwars trend from 7 to 10 and now 11.
One thing that totally freezes it for too long is office auto installs ai.exe and aimgr.DLL in some deep folder place. If I delete them the system is somewhat better, but updates put them back
What in the world is “sluggish” on that computer that woouldn’t be on 10? The new bloated notepad? That doesn’t even take a quarter of a second to load on my current laptop?
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On the upside, the evaporation of availability for high-end consumer hardware might lead to a renaissance in more reasonable hardware requirements for software. There’s a lot of stuff we managed to do 20 or 30 years ago without anywhere near as much overhead. The indie gaming market already shows there’s plenty of room for companies to work with more modest overhead.
That’s a fair point. I feel that PC gaming was in a peak of consumerism with ridiculous prices and never ending “upgrades” so it’ll be interesting to see if anything changes. I hope it does and some of that knowledge/skill and enthusiasm for optimisation comes back.
A certain amount of this seems to be happening anyway just because the culture at AAA studios is so inimical to gaming in general. Looking at a game like Peak, I don’t see any indication that the devs went out of their way to reduce hardware requirements, but it’s less intensive than major releases anyway. Companies not having the resources to spend years working on super detailed massive environments may end up working in their favor.
Honestly, I think something like Peak ends up feeling more intentional and well executed than something like Cyberpunk 2077. Peak’s jank feels like it’s just part of how the game is supposed to be, whereas Cyberpunk they put so much effort into some aspects that it’s weird and jarring when you run into those things that break verisimilitude. But if Cyberpunk looked like it was designed by an indie dev with good enough but not state of the art graphics? I probably wouldn’t notice some of the issues as much. Also I feel like there wouldn’t be as much corporate involvement leading to the kind of hand-holding that shows up in Phantom Liberty.
This is headed toward devolving into me complaining about feeling like I’m not in half the scenes that revolve around Idris Elba rather than V, but you get the point!
I love your comment not only because it makes a lot of sense, but also because it taught me the words “inimical” and “verisimilitude.” Thank you.
If I keep learning new words I’m going to start to forgor older ones!
Very related, you should check out Cairn.
Isn’t Microsoft stabbing itself in the foot? 11 is so bad it’s bogging down regular machines available before this nonsense
11 uses barely more resources than end of the run windows 10.
Hell half the reason I upgraded for certain games and programs.
I don’t find that. I had to upgrade our corporate machine to best on market work station to run 11 properly and its still chugs. It’s also noticeable slower with apps, a downwars trend from 7 to 10 and now 11.
One thing that totally freezes it for too long is office auto installs ai.exe and aimgr.DLL in some deep folder place. If I delete them the system is somewhat better, but updates put them back
Define “best on the market work station”. I’ve used 11 on a 10th gen ulv i5 laptop and it ran just fine, no worse than with 10 on it.
From the minor direct X improvements, all the way to actually supporting hybrid CPU architectures and 6ghz there’s a lot of ways 11 performs better.
At the time of purchase it was latest Ultra9 CPU with 22 cores, 64 gig RAM , nvidie RTX3000, nvme drives. Still sluggish with windows.
What in the world is “sluggish” on that computer that woouldn’t be on 10? The new bloated notepad? That doesn’t even take a quarter of a second to load on my current laptop?
Everything. Especially file explorer updates when changing folders. If I boot Linux it runs great
11 runs great on 13 year old hardware, once you debloat it.
You don’t even have to do any serious things, even mobile phones can render any type of game today, no sweat (rare exceptions excluded).
Source: squeezed speed with dark magic for games twenty years ago. Non copying scroller lightspeed ftw!
Fun times.