Sandfall Interactive and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 has been stripped of its wins at The Indie Game Awards due to use of generative AI.
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How have we all forgotten that games were made perfectly fine for decades without AI? Better games even.

I’d rather give an award to a “worse” game that didnt use AI, than to a game that did.

Devs can lie, but the truth always comes out eventually.

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“the truth” being that a few generated placeholder textures were accidentally left in and promptly replaced? crazy

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Why didnt they just buy placeholder textures?

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Then most just won’t go on the Game Awards, and devs will go on using Cursor or whatever they feel comfortable with in their IDE setup.

I’m all against AI slop, but you’re setting an unreasonably absolute standard. It’s like saying “I will never use any game that was developed in proximity to any closed source software.” That is possible, technically, but most people aren’t gonna do that. It’s basically impossible on a larger team. Give them some slack with the requirement; it’s okay to develop on Windows or on Steam, just open the game’s source.

Similarly, let devs use basic tools. Ban slop from the end product.

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Cool, dont accept awards then. Its not the be all and end all.

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Games were made by a single person not sleeping for a week.

But people expect more now and one person can’t do it fueled just by passion. The other people want to get paid now, not when the game is released.

Limiting the tools people can use to make games is ableist, elitist and just stupid.

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Theyre not limiting their tools, they’re limiting some awards they could win by doing the art themselves.

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No no. The rules didn’t say “art” it was ALL AI use for the whole duration of the project. Planning, emails, research everything.

Not a single drop of AI is allowed.

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I’m pretty sure sending Emails isnt considered game development.

That Argument is moot though, because they were in fact banned for using AI Art, not some internal spreadsheet or Emails they sent.

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This time yes. But the rule ban any and all AI use during development. It doesn’t matter if it’s in the final product or not.

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Games developed using generative AI are strictly ineligible for nomination.

https://www.indiegameawards.gg/faq

You arent developing a game when you sennd Emails to someone. Same as you’re not a developer when you do the finances.

Thats part of the company that arent involved in game development.

Your argument is equal to me claiming piblishers are developers.

They might want to make it more clear for the purposefully ignorant people though.

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If you’re sending emails related to the development of the game you’re developing to other people developing that same game, you’re NOT developing the game? What kind of bullshit mental gymnastics is this?

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Sending Emails related to development is still not development itself.

If youre washing your gymnastic dress, it’s not considered doing gymnastics. You are even allowed to wash them while high. Still wouldn’t get you disqualified from the Contest, just when you’re actually high while doing gymnastics.

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What about AI based autocomplete in an IDE, would that disqualify a game from this specific award?

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Would you consider it your own code or Code that was generated by AI?

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