Ah, the 90s cash-cow is still getting milked, I see. What a poor slop of slack-jawed bastards: shelling out for shiny flotsam w/ inflated valuation that can be instantly erased at corpo whim — the same bullshit tactics GW’s been peddling in plastic for years before. (and still is, yes)
FFS, I noped out during Antiquities when I saw what a POS “card crack” model it was. How is this still alive?! 🤢
Not many FLGS owners I’ve met in the last 20 years would’ve tried that sheisty tactic. Sorry that was your experience.
To be fair to your memory of it, imagine what would’ve happened had you pulled it from the booster? Nevermind the nat-20 IRL that would’ve been 🤌🏼, I’m talking about the selling it too soon or hemming & hawing over it until the stress clinched it (see: the former). You’re better off without that Black Lotus, most likely.
I was literally gambling at that point. Though I honestly just wanted one so I could sell or trade for Juzam Djinns. All because I got absolutely wrecked by them at the little tourneys they held at the shop.
They shut down abruptly and I remember starting to go to other local shops and quickly learning they deserved to be closed.
Because it’s fun to play? People buying and hoarding cards because of their monetary value is certainly something that happens, but this is first and foremost a game.
If proxies are allowed, then why wouldn’t everyone in said group reconfigure their decks to include their clutch cards? That sounds like an unnecessary and illogical parameter, and implies an unavoidable need by the group to purchase their cards “normally” to feel that they’re doing it correctly. 🤌🏼
Brings us right back to “Fuck WotC, GW, CMON, etc.”, eh? 🤷🏽♂️
Speaking as a player that doesn’t use proxies, if the people I play with suddenly all started to compete with stronger and stronger decks using proxied cards, I’d feel more likely to quit playing with them than try to keep up.
Not everyone is looking for power.
Speaking as a fellow peasant, I’d like to point out that you seemed to understand earlier that proxy-use is assumed to be agreed on by the group and therefore open to all players. This latest comment implies a lie-by-omission ambush tactic, which is indefensible of course, so I’m not sure why you bring it up.
I’ll restate for crystal-clarity:
If everyone in the group is able to proxy, why wouldn’t each of them craft their perfect deck? The game is all about synergy, efficiency, situational adaptivity, etc.
Unless, of course, the commercial component is essential to your personal validation of the gameplay — which, let’s be honest, is basically just painting a new face on clown punching.
In other words, Pay-to-win systems’re pretty commonly regarded (worldwide) as greedy corpo bullshit, so how do you reconcile this Pay-to-feel-like-a-winner tradition?
I love MTG, but I will not collect the cards. I have a few Commander decks to play with my kids, and I like playing draft w/ friends or online.
I’ve always liked the gameplay and limited strategy, and never liked the collecting/trading aspect. Even as a kid, we got a bunch of low cost cards and made fun decks to play against each other. I hate playing standard or any of the 60-card constructed formats, I stick to limited and commander.
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Ah, the 90s cash-cow is still getting milked, I see. What a poor slop of slack-jawed bastards: shelling out for shiny flotsam w/ inflated valuation that can be instantly erased at corpo whim — the same bullshit tactics GW’s been peddling in plastic for years before. (and still is, yes)
FFS, I noped out during Antiquities when I saw what a POS “card crack” model it was. How is this still alive?! 🤢
I spent a lot of money on 4th edition because I was told there were still Black Lotus by the card shop owner.
Cracking MtG packs though… booster drafts were so much fun with a small group.
Not many FLGS owners I’ve met in the last 20 years would’ve tried that sheisty tactic. Sorry that was your experience.
To be fair to your memory of it, imagine what would’ve happened had you pulled it from the booster? Nevermind the nat-20 IRL that would’ve been 🤌🏼, I’m talking about the selling it too soon or hemming & hawing over it until the stress clinched it (see: the former). You’re better off without that Black Lotus, most likely.
Like they say, “The story’s not in the crits.” 🤘🏼
I was literally gambling at that point. Though I honestly just wanted one so I could sell or trade for Juzam Djinns. All because I got absolutely wrecked by them at the little tourneys they held at the shop.
They shut down abruptly and I remember starting to go to other local shops and quickly learning they deserved to be closed.
Karma’s a mofo. Especially around magic math rocks. 🤌🏼
Because it’s fun to play? People buying and hoarding cards because of their monetary value is certainly something that happens, but this is first and foremost a game.
So, proxy’s fine, then?
I would say so. As long as you aren’t abusing the secondary market to proxy cards that are totally out of reach for your play group’s power level
If proxies are allowed, then why wouldn’t everyone in said group reconfigure their decks to include their clutch cards? That sounds like an unnecessary and illogical parameter, and implies an unavoidable need by the group to purchase their cards “normally” to feel that they’re doing it correctly. 🤌🏼
Brings us right back to “Fuck WotC, GW, CMON, etc.”, eh? 🤷🏽♂️
Speaking as a player that doesn’t use proxies, if the people I play with suddenly all started to compete with stronger and stronger decks using proxied cards, I’d feel more likely to quit playing with them than try to keep up. Not everyone is looking for power.
Speaking as a fellow peasant, I’d like to point out that you seemed to understand earlier that proxy-use is assumed to be agreed on by the group and therefore open to all players. This latest comment implies a lie-by-omission ambush tactic, which is indefensible of course, so I’m not sure why you bring it up.
I’ll restate for crystal-clarity:
Unless, of course, the commercial component is essential to your personal validation of the gameplay — which, let’s be honest, is basically just painting a new face on clown punching.
In other words, Pay-to-win systems’re pretty commonly regarded (worldwide) as greedy corpo bullshit, so how do you reconcile this Pay-to-feel-like-a-winner tradition?
By simply not looking it in the face? 😶🤷🏽♂️
I love MTG, but I will not collect the cards. I have a few Commander decks to play with my kids, and I like playing draft w/ friends or online.
I’ve always liked the gameplay and limited strategy, and never liked the collecting/trading aspect. Even as a kid, we got a bunch of low cost cards and made fun decks to play against each other. I hate playing standard or any of the 60-card constructed formats, I stick to limited and commander.
This is the way.
Also, proxies are how I tend to teach the game, and even how to build their decks via various proxy lists, etc. 🤘🏼