That’s your right and I support you but… If your standard is “I don’t buy products that are made by bad people”… You’re gonna have a tough time. No such thing as ethical capitalism and all that.
I’m not them, but I dislike Epic Online Servies, too. Last time I read the terms document, it granted permission for way too much data collection, and I’m not a fan of spyware.
I mean if you don’t log in, at least the dedicated server only makes two calls to EOS. The SDK is in the game, sure, but if you’re not logging in to Epic then I don’t really see the threat. It seems like classic sinophobia to be totally blasé about any data Steam (or Coffee Stain) want to collect, but to avoid the entire product because Tencent might be able to associate your IP with the fact that you own the game.
I said the problem is not UE, I didn’t say i love it, did I? I only said the engine is not the problem if it’s not infested with EOS. Games that force it now or retroactively add it are the big problem, EOS and Tim is the second problem
But… Why? I don’t understand why you would be okay with using a company’s engine but not their online services. Is it a privacy issue? You don’t even have to log in to Epic unless you want cross platform play.
I don’t use it nor I’m okay using it. You’re forced to use their launcher and have an account with them. I wouldn’t really mind an account to use the engine (if I was good at making games! But that’s another problem 🤷♂️) but why is it tied to okay I was gonna make an argument at why is the engine tied to a launcher but steam is the same (I knew but checked to be sure) not that I care much in both cases tho.
The problem is I don’t trust epic and their EOS since they have a bad reputation for what they do and did.
If it helps, you’re not logged into EOS automatically anymore in 1.0. You have the option for direct IP connect, Steam, or EOS.
There are many new settings that you can apply to a session. Now you can play singleplayer with all the multiplayer capabilities disabled. You can now play exclusively using Steam to connect, or exclusively use Epic Online Services, as well as choose to have Crossplay between both platforms.
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Remove EOS and I’m gonna buy it
What’s the downside to it? It enables cross play.
The owner of it is a bad person 🤷♂️
That’s your right and I support you but… If your standard is “I don’t buy products that are made by bad people”… You’re gonna have a tough time. No such thing as ethical capitalism and all that.
The problem is what they did and still doing🤷♂️ they could offer something better rather that trying to buy people with free games
Wait until you learn what engine they’re using and who they pay royalties to.
Eh I know. But the engine itself isn’t bad 🤷♂️
But their primary networking plugin is?
Yes, more than the engine. I’m not saying I love the engine tho… Let’s say it’s below everything else 🤔
Now that’s a hot take.
Trying to be the Adobe of game engines is fine, but their online service is the line in the sand?
Bruh I just said it’s not the worst thing. The bareback launcher, Tim’s small brain and EOS are much worse
Brother it’s on other platforms… What’s your complaint? It’s a UE5 game 🧐
I’m not them, but I dislike Epic Online Servies, too. Last time I read the terms document, it granted permission for way too much data collection, and I’m not a fan of spyware.
You don’t have to log in to Epic unless you want to play with Epic users.
That’s not how EOS works.
I mean if you don’t log in, at least the dedicated server only makes two calls to EOS. The SDK is in the game, sure, but if you’re not logging in to Epic then I don’t really see the threat. It seems like classic sinophobia to be totally blasé about any data Steam (or Coffee Stain) want to collect, but to avoid the entire product because Tencent might be able to associate your IP with the fact that you own the game.
The people behind OES
I dislike Sweeny et al more than most, but do you boycott all UE games?
The problem is not UE tho
They’re both Epic, my guy – do you just specifically dislike one of the engineers working on EOS or what?
I said the problem is not UE, I didn’t say i love it, did I? I only said the engine is not the problem if it’s not infested with EOS. Games that force it now or retroactively add it are the big problem, EOS and Tim is the second problem
But… Why? I don’t understand why you would be okay with using a company’s engine but not their online services. Is it a privacy issue? You don’t even have to log in to Epic unless you want cross platform play.
I don’t use it nor I’m okay using it.
You’re forced to use their launcher and have an account with them. I wouldn’t really mind an account to use the engine (if I was good at making games! But that’s another problem 🤷♂️) but why is it tied tookay I was gonna make an argument at why is the engine tied to a launcher but steam is the same (I knew but checked to be sure) not that I care much in both cases tho.The problem is I don’t trust epic and their EOS since they have a bad reputation for what they do and did.
If it helps, you’re not logged into EOS automatically anymore in 1.0. You have the option for direct IP connect, Steam, or EOS.
Not gonna trust devs who use it tho
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