But he doesn't mind if you take an anti-capitalist message away anyhow.
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VaultTec being evil wasn’t really part of the first game, but the evil megacorp exploiting (and encouraging) disaster to put profits over human lives, that’s an obvious critique of capitalism. Maybe he didn’t set out to make it a critique of capitalism, but that became part of the foundation in later games.

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Except for they don’t care about profits at all.

The entire stick with the enclave/ valtek is they want to rebuild society from the ground up in an image that they deem to be correct and perfect. And the capitalism was just an end to a means

That would only be further reinforced by the slides from the X8 research facility in Old world blues if you complete all tasks.

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Eh, does Vault-Tec care about profits or science? Almost everyone died, and the ones that didn’t aren’t paying anymore.

There are certainly some critiques of capitalism - the vaults being paid at all - but I think you’re overselling it

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Of course it cared about profits. Profits right then. That’s one of the key components of capitalism. The complete and utter lack of an ability to put long-term profit ahead of short-term profit. I can think of nothing more quintessentially capitalist then destroying the world in an effort to make a lot of money today.

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That’s not capitalism though it’s corporatism.

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“Corporatism vs Capitalism” was invented by capitalists to create a strawman that they can blame instead of blaming capitalism for everything wrong with captitalism.

The rest of the world uses Corporatism for something else entirely, what you might mean is corpocracy or corporate capitalism, which are just manifestations of capitalism.

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It needed the profits for even more radical science!

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Yeah basically, but… Capitalism kinda is human nature, so he isn’t wrong, greed was always a thing and will always be.

But Vault Tech was more the like the science people wanting test subjects and reshaping humanity. Vault Tech could have been run by Joseph Mengele or a similar person who disregarded all ethics for hardcore “science”

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Capitalism has only existed for a couple centuries. Something that new can’t be human nature!

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Yeah shure lol, the people in stone age didn’t trade stuff in exchange for shells (their “currency”)

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Capitalism ≠ commerce. Trade exists under nearly all economic systems.

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And so did and does greed, wich is what capitalism is

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https://archive.org/details/inquiryintonatur00smit_3

Please read that, and help your understanding of what Capitalism is, and is not. It’s rather short, only takes a few hours to read, but comprehension may take some time pondering.

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That’s not capitalism. It’s so strange you parrot status quo propaganda like “capitalism is human nature,” and don’t stop and reflect why. Do you genuinely think capitalism is a synonym for economy? Lol

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