It’s just people being weird and conservative and nostalgic. “Game that doesn’t make me feel like a child” = “modern game”.
Old. They’re being old. This is EXACTLY the same energy as a boomer saying “Music these days don’t get it” or “No one pays attention to this anymore” or “Nothing’s as good as it used to be”.
The take hyper focuses on negativity and would rather whine and complain about everything bad NOW, while nostalgia is living in their head rent free, because things are passing them by.
A friend of mine started saying BG3 was garbage recently. When I asked why he couldn’t adequately get out a reason. They were all weird and dismissive. We ended up in a heated discussion because I felt he wasn’t being fair at all to the game. Turns out I was right. He eventually ended up saying “Listen I just think the game fucking sucks because there is too much in it. I don’t have the time for all this. I miss when games were good and didn’t sprawl on forever, forcing you to get confused and lost.” When I pointed out that his complaint was based entirely in what he likes and not what’s good, he changed subject.
Nine times out of ten these “IT’S NOT GOOD ANYMORE” are based purely in nostalgia that ignores everything negative because they’re not looking to criticize. They’re looking to vent their frustrations but don’t know how to do it in a healthy or fair manner.
Haven’t gotten around to Baldurs gate 3 yet, but I have heard good things. Those other examples are phenomenal games. Games like that are few and far between tho. Most are absolute grind fests and it’s not even fun to game online anymore.
BG3 is amazing if you like story driven games with impactful decisions, and strategic combat. I love D&D but have a hard time getting a group together these days, so it is a nice substitute.
Oh boy, the new zeldas’ have tons of collectibles and they don’t feel special at all. The fact that you have a menu telling you how many you got makes it worse.
Woodland critter counter
Poe counter
Shrine counter
Stable points
Fall challenges
And so on. It began as fun and as I progressed I started getting sidetracked and by the end it just wasn’t as fun anymore. The new zelda lack focus. And it’s intentional too, I just hate that.
The “new zeldas”? Where were you when they hid a bunch of quality of life upgrades behind an actual hundred skulltulas?
I think sometimes people mistake a game surfacing a list of content for practical reasons with forcing you to touch every little thing inside the game. In any case, Zelda games have always had a progress screen like that. They practicaly pioneered the concept.
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Both new Zeldas and Baldur’s Gate 3 don’t feel like a chore to me. They’re awesome games. Same with Red Dead Redemption 2.
Just this year we got Spider-Man 2, Pikmin 4, Cities Skylines II, Super Mario Wonder, Hi-Fi Rush… The guy even praises Baldur’s Gate in this.
It’s just people being weird and conservative and nostalgic. “Game that doesn’t make me feel like a child” = “modern game”.
Old. They’re being old. This is EXACTLY the same energy as a boomer saying “Music these days don’t get it” or “No one pays attention to this anymore” or “Nothing’s as good as it used to be”.
The take hyper focuses on negativity and would rather whine and complain about everything bad NOW, while nostalgia is living in their head rent free, because things are passing them by.
A friend of mine started saying BG3 was garbage recently. When I asked why he couldn’t adequately get out a reason. They were all weird and dismissive. We ended up in a heated discussion because I felt he wasn’t being fair at all to the game. Turns out I was right. He eventually ended up saying “Listen I just think the game fucking sucks because there is too much in it. I don’t have the time for all this. I miss when games were good and didn’t sprawl on forever, forcing you to get confused and lost.” When I pointed out that his complaint was based entirely in what he likes and not what’s good, he changed subject.
Nine times out of ten these “IT’S NOT GOOD ANYMORE” are based purely in nostalgia that ignores everything negative because they’re not looking to criticize. They’re looking to vent their frustrations but don’t know how to do it in a healthy or fair manner.
Haven’t gotten around to Baldurs gate 3 yet, but I have heard good things. Those other examples are phenomenal games. Games like that are few and far between tho. Most are absolute grind fests and it’s not even fun to game online anymore.
BG3 is amazing if you like story driven games with impactful decisions, and strategic combat. I love D&D but have a hard time getting a group together these days, so it is a nice substitute.
Oh boy, the new zeldas’ have tons of collectibles and they don’t feel special at all. The fact that you have a menu telling you how many you got makes it worse.
Woodland critter counter
Poe counter
Shrine counter
Stable points
Fall challenges
And so on. It began as fun and as I progressed I started getting sidetracked and by the end it just wasn’t as fun anymore. The new zelda lack focus. And it’s intentional too, I just hate that.
The “new zeldas”? Where were you when they hid a bunch of quality of life upgrades behind an actual hundred skulltulas?
I think sometimes people mistake a game surfacing a list of content for practical reasons with forcing you to touch every little thing inside the game. In any case, Zelda games have always had a progress screen like that. They practicaly pioneered the concept.
I don’t feel the need to get all of those things. If I see poe, I pick it up, but I don’t go actively hunting for it.
Don’t forget how much you had to grind for armor upgrades.
Armor what? xD
I beat the game with a shiny 12 in amor.