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The discussion was of a common trope in video games, the person I replied to referenced an unspecific element in video game storytelling, and you expect the primary understanding of the subsequent label to be talking to a sub-section of a sub-section of all gamers?

Either you are reading a far too charitable (and unrealistic) interpretation of the previous comment, or the original comment needs signficant revision.

Even if we take your reading as valid, how would the attention span of a minor fraction of all gamers move the needle, in terms of game design, enough to bring about the tropes previously discussed?


Feels unnecessarily hyperbolic to call the average gamer an “adrenaline junkie”. Games need gameplay and fixing things that aren’t working, be it a dying flashlight or an erupting reactor, is easy and extensible gameplay.




Not superhuman, just very simple. I pick what I want most at the moment, especially in a game where I can refund points if my decision wasn’t great.


I had to take another look to see if they’ve shat the tree up worse somehow. But, no, it’s the same. The tree isn’t complicated to read or even that hard to understand. It’s a tree: you start at the base and make decisions at the branches.

Perhaps it’s an extension of people getting paralyzed by decisions, which I don’t experience, but it’s only difficult if you are in the strange position of “knowing enough about the passive tree to know a build/specific passive exists” but also don’t know the tree enough to figure out how to get there.


Because it sounds like they’d be ditching everything previous fans love about the universe and lore to hit a bunch of buzzwords. There is insane shit from older games that I’m sure will never see the light of day (unless a modder gets inspired) because Bethesda wants to sanitize and mass-marketize the world.

Will Elsweyr explore at all the fact there are effectively different species of Khajiit tied to under what combination of the phases of the dual moons the baby is born? Or will Bethesda just throw some big, gruff, talking tigers and some small, funny, talking house cats around and call it a day after putting in exactly one (1) version of each of those that inverts that mold?

Will the Mane be like this: https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mane ? Or will he just be a Khajiit in LaCroix-level flavorings of Middle-Eastern adjacent clothing?


Yeah, I’m not mad that they chomped Humankind’s flavor. I see it as an admission that the game had good ideas (if less-than-stellar execution). I’ve just seem rando comments trying to tamp down on claims that there are similarities like their stock portfolio is riding on it.

I’m sure it’s management’s fault but they should be shouting out fellow devs in their breakdowns: “oh, we saw Humankind and thought it’s mechanic was fascinating. But we wanted to adapt it closer to our style and refine some pain points we noticed in our execution.”


What?

I only remember the wave-based, tower defense main mod. What playground mode was there?


There have been a number of voxel shooter that have shipped lowkey since Minecraft that attempted to add block placement to the team v team ticket shooter, e.g. Ace of Spades.



Oh boy, can’t wait for modders to dress it up as various star wars speeders. I’m looking forward to play all the star wars mods but i refuse to pay full price for that thing


No agrument there. I’m just saying that can’t be labeled as ‘bad game design’ like the examples the TO listed can. I believe a game isn’t required to aim for as many players as possible. An MMO only needs enough players to sell the illusion that there are other people with agency shaking up the world, and I believe you can achieve that with a couple thousand players. You can easily find tens of thousands of people that would play a melee only MMORPG, especially if it were full dive.

(This is, of course, handwaving the economics of funding an MMO)


I don’t think this, in particular, makes the game bad as long as the game is designed around the lack of support.


Yeah but Twitter is a alt-right breeding pit now owned by an idiot, Republican sponsor. Steam is were kids and antifa go to get games about their sick fantasies, like “self-sufficiency”, “joy”, and “measurable progress earned from reasonable effort”.


Have you considered just…not uninstalling it?


What do you mean “same combat”, like Amalur made some novel innovation? They’re both just 3D, third-person action combat; it’s a mechanic. This is like knocking Fallout New Vegas because it still had you shooting guns, and we already shot guns in Fallout 3.

The game looks disappointing for plenty of legitimate reasons, so let’s stick to those.


But…that’s not specifically about video games?

E3 cultivated an “insider” appeal that not many large cons tried to match. You could look forward to game reveals that you’d mark on your calendars.

PAX has a more indie feel and Gamescom feels much more like an actual trade show.



I agree that the skill-locked purchase of physical equipment is garbage but I found myself sticking on the question of if you got the ‘de-facto’ best ship part for each category because you had the relevant skill.

Like some quest is occuring and, in dialogue, you have a choice locked by being the most-skilled pilot and choosing it leads to one set of the best ship parts. How does that flow? Does that read as the same thing, or is it more enjoyable now as a reward for character build?


Same! I’m hoping to get a modlist sorted and played before getting into Fallout: London, another astounding mod-effort that will reinvigorate a boring base game.


I’m gonna try and save you time and money. Just wait for modders to make that game in Skyrim. I’m fairly sure Beyond Skyrim: Elsweyr isn’t as far along as some of the others, but you’ll have other major mods to play in the meanwhile.


No. But I have seen Twitch recommend a stream of a person sleep with their ass artistically posed to the camera about a week ago.

Yes, I clicked on it. It was quite a shapely ass. They had been streaming for more than 6 hrs and had thousands of “viewers” even while ‘asleep’.


Yea, sure, Twitch

They were just tired of fielding questions of why the camgirls were exempt from the rules everyone else was following. Now it’s because it’s “artistic”.


I’m convinced I’ll still be playing Skyrim in 2035 when TES6 is released. There are so many mods due to come out in the next 3 years.




The level scaling was what killed the game for me. Why am I going back to zones I trekked through nearly naked at the start of the game and having the exact same level of fight when I’m geared up? It cut the ankles out from any feelings of progression I might have felt. All for the sake of an open world that I didn’t ask for and wasn’t enthused about playing through. The open-world didn’t serve the story any better amd only brought negatives. Even if they wanted to give you freedom to explore, the story (from what I played was already laid out in tiers. Why not have those zones’ levels bracketed around those story tiers.


It is absolutely NOT the next generation of “pretty”. Can’t even sign up for the qualifiers for that competition.


In that scope, cromulent Early Access game seem like the poster child for live service games.



Had a hell of a time trying to sound out what that word was trying to be