Not to defend this game in particular, but criticizing a game for its length vs cost alone is a bad trend that leads to Ubisoft-esque bloat and padding. There are plenty of shorter games that were well worth the price (Revengence, Titanfall 2, Portal 2, hell, most of Valve’s full single player games to name some)
I mean, it’s not just collectibles that make those games big. Large worlds with many side quests, RPG or skill systems that require a lot of grinding to progress. It’s not like the game is designed the same way as Call of Duty, except there’s collectibles, Ubisoft’s games are fundementally bigger.
Fair enough, and it is definitely bigger. But in my mind, systems that get no engagement from me are systems that don’t exist, therefore making the game smaller.
What I particularly hate is the catacombs and other recycled open world stuff in Elden Ring. I’d much rather have another Sekiro sized game with a lot of quality than a 100h+ game I’ll only play once, because replaying anything more than the main progression path feels like a chore but it still gives you loot.
Mine, too! It really showcases the kind of narrative that is only possible with the interactivity of video games as a medium. If I could experience any game again for the first time, it’d be Outer Wilds!
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$70 for 10 hours of content that autocompleted for early players? Turbo yikes.
Not to defend this game in particular, but criticizing a game for its length vs cost alone is a bad trend that leads to Ubisoft-esque bloat and padding. There are plenty of shorter games that were well worth the price (Revengence, Titanfall 2, Portal 2, hell, most of Valve’s full single player games to name some)
It’s like rating a book by the number of pages.
Ubisoft padding doesn’t count for length for me. I ain’t getting the 27000 collectibles, AC is 20h long not 200h long.
I mean, it’s not just collectibles that make those games big. Large worlds with many side quests, RPG or skill systems that require a lot of grinding to progress. It’s not like the game is designed the same way as Call of Duty, except there’s collectibles, Ubisoft’s games are fundementally bigger.
Fair enough, and it is definitely bigger. But in my mind, systems that get no engagement from me are systems that don’t exist, therefore making the game smaller.
What I particularly hate is the catacombs and other recycled open world stuff in Elden Ring. I’d much rather have another Sekiro sized game with a lot of quality than a 100h+ game I’ll only play once, because replaying anything more than the main progression path feels like a chore but it still gives you loot.
Yeah I did the same for a while. Thought about I like 1 dollar per 1 hour. So if I payed 50 dollar for a 70 hour game that’s good.
Now I think that a game with 8 hours can be worth 70.
Outerwilds is really short
Around 15 hours for someone who goes in completely blind, I think. Or 20 minutes for someone who knows what they’re doing!
Yeah one of my favourite games ever too
Mine, too! It really showcases the kind of narrative that is only possible with the interactivity of video games as a medium. If I could experience any game again for the first time, it’d be Outer Wilds!
Yeah, i watched my wife play too capture some of that awe again
Might it be better in future to screenshot the post, quote the text and cite the author/poster, supposing one wants to avoid any linking to Twitter?
Some people like twitter or want more context, I might screenshot the posts in the future with how Nitter is getting clamped down on.