I think I have made abundantly clear that I consider XCOM: Enemy Unknown to be one of the best strategy games of all time. When it was released in 2012, it single-handedly revitalized the turn-base…
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The OG Xcom and Terror from the Deep are the classics. The new 20XX ones are fine, if streamlined additions Haven’t felt any need to revisit apocalypse though.

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Eh, the original from the 90s is a more solid game. The game is good is some ways, but flawed in many. First of all the dumbing down. In 90s version you recruit soldiers for money, then check their stats and make them snipers, grenadiers, shock troops or even suicide bombers depending on their skills. 2012 version, you get a bunch of gamified units that have set upgrade paths.

90s version you build and attack multiple bases, administrate a world wide war with great wins and painful losses. In 2012, you pretty much have to win each scenario or the game becomes unwinnable.

Old version, more units, lose one or two, the fight goes on. New version, two dead soldiers will make many fights unwinnable. Old, all aliens are on map at start. New, aliens spawn suddenly in illogical positions and often put your troops in impossible situations that you would never have wandered into if the enemy was on the field and not suddenly appeared out of thin air.

Old, no limits to equipment, give every man 2 grenades and 2 smoke grenades, no worries. New, only Carl can carry smoke grenades, because the game wants to force strategic choices.

I could go on, but long story short, yes new xcom was good, but it really was a dumber version of the original, which had small flaws, but is still an amazing game. New xcom I would just not want to play again.

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Agree 100%. Played updated X-Com 1 and 2 once through and thought they were fine but just that everything was too clean and on rails. I didn’t think those games provided any particularly memorable experiences for me.

I’m still playing the 90s version to this day because I remember this one dude who was the lone survivor out of his 12 man squad during an early terror mission that went south really fast. He quickly emptied his initial ammo loadout, had to run through enemy fire to scavenge weapons from his fallen comrades scattered across the map, and changed weapon types at least twice because there were no more rifle clips to be had anywhere on the map. He surprisingly finished that mission and carried on to the end of the game as a living God of war.

I still remember that shit to this day and keep playing with the hope that such an epic story will unfold again.

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Yeah the two last games are really great and I enjoyed them so much on Steam Deck.

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Tl;dr Yes.

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I’m still waiting for a new terror from the deep.

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There’s a fire starting in your ship
Reaching a fever pitch and it’s bringing 'em out the dark
Finally I can see you crystal clear
Go 'head and crash land and I’ll strip your saucer bare

See how I leave with every piece of it
Don’t underestimate the things that I will do
There’s a fire starting in my heart
Reaching a fever pitch and its bringing me out the dark

The scars and gore remind me of war
They keep me thinking that we almost lost it all
The holes in my suit they leave me breathless, I can’t help feeling

We could have had it all
Terror from the deep
You had my heart inside of your hand
And you played it to the beat

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