Protests broke out outside Rockstar North’s Edinburgh office and Take-Two Interactive’s London headquarters, as demonstrators accused the company of “union busting”.
Am I the only one who is already utterly bored of GTA in America? I know this is where the series is based, but I am so over my interest of that country and would love to see a GTA in a new country. GTA Bangkok would be amazing for instance.
In the meantime, Rockstar better get it together and treat their employees with respect and stop being greedy assholes. Either way, I am not buying GTA 6.
Sleeping Dogs (aka “Sleepy Dogs”) is basically GTA in Hong Kong but inspired by HK crime dramas rather than tarantino stealing his ideas from them. And it was REALLY good and shockingly holds up (did another run late last year). Arkham Batman style combat on foot but you also have guns and cars (with Total Overdose style shenanigans to leap from car to car). Technically a sequel to True Crime LA but nobody cares about that.
Also… Emma Stone is in it for reasons nobody understands. And it is still unclear if she actually knows she was in it either.
But it also highlights the issue. Taking GTA and moving it to another country would, by and large, lose the purpose of the game. Modern day Rockstar is very much an American company and all of their points of reference are American cinema (or what few foreign films take off here). That was very noticeable any time Nico began referring to “the old country”. To transplant that to Russia or Thailand would just be an American movie set in Russia or Thailand.
Whereas… if you enjoy HK crime dramas than you will LOVE Sleepy Dogs because it 100% understood the assignment. United Front clearly worshipped the movies and it very much showed… while also making sure Wei Shen had spent most of his life in the US to account for any weirdness there.
And if you’ve ever spent time in Hong Kong? Okay, it isn’t quite as good as RGG and Kabukicho or Yokohama. But you very much get all the right vibes in a way that the GTAs often fail at with LA and NYC. You aren’t going to be able to navigate Wan Chai just because you beat up some fools there (unlike how you can 100% navigate Kabukicho after any modern Yakuza…) but you are going to feel “at home” on the streets in either form.
Buggy releases that are horrifically overpriced, go in completely wonky directions, and in general are so generic and repetitive and yet continue to push all other potential competition from the market.
I can’t speak to Rockstar directly but I do know some game companies send anti-union propaganda emails regularly. To take the next step and fire people is entirely believable given when I’ve seen HR push out.
More or less all companies (that are legally allowed to (and some that aren’t)) send anti-union propaganda. Whether it is outright villification or just “We are your friends. Talk to us. If you form a union it is you saying we failed”. That is kind of just the nature of the game.
What matters is what happens when the workforce decides to unionize anyway. You can either respect it or do everything you can to slaughter your workforce.
My only thing with this is the claim is a glass cannon if its true. If no company resources were given out in this ordeal, if I was one of the 40 employees involved I would be leaking the forum messages publicly to show how there wasn’t any inside information involved. Make the entire case fall apart because if it’s shown no public info was involved, the claim it wasn’t over unionization becomes harder to fight. But I guess that is a better situation for in a court scenario.
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Am I the only one who is already utterly bored of GTA in America? I know this is where the series is based, but I am so over my interest of that country and would love to see a GTA in a new country. GTA Bangkok would be amazing for instance.
In the meantime, Rockstar better get it together and treat their employees with respect and stop being greedy assholes. Either way, I am not buying GTA 6.
Sleeping Dogs (aka “Sleepy Dogs”) is basically GTA in Hong Kong but inspired by HK crime dramas rather than tarantino stealing his ideas from them. And it was REALLY good and shockingly holds up (did another run late last year). Arkham Batman style combat on foot but you also have guns and cars (with Total Overdose style shenanigans to leap from car to car). Technically a sequel to True Crime LA but nobody cares about that.
Also… Emma Stone is in it for reasons nobody understands. And it is still unclear if she actually knows she was in it either.
But it also highlights the issue. Taking GTA and moving it to another country would, by and large, lose the purpose of the game. Modern day Rockstar is very much an American company and all of their points of reference are American cinema (or what few foreign films take off here). That was very noticeable any time Nico began referring to “the old country”. To transplant that to Russia or Thailand would just be an American movie set in Russia or Thailand.
Whereas… if you enjoy HK crime dramas than you will LOVE Sleepy Dogs because it 100% understood the assignment. United Front clearly worshipped the movies and it very much showed… while also making sure Wei Shen had spent most of his life in the US to account for any weirdness there.
And if you’ve ever spent time in Hong Kong? Okay, it isn’t quite as good as RGG and Kabukicho or Yokohama. But you very much get all the right vibes in a way that the GTAs often fail at with LA and NYC. You aren’t going to be able to navigate Wan Chai just because you beat up some fools there (unlike how you can 100% navigate Kabukicho after any modern Yakuza…) but you are going to feel “at home” on the streets in either form.
GTA Bangkok you’d be stuck in traffic the whole time. The tuk tuks would be cool though.
I will not be buying the game
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GTA Online alone takes in billions of dollars for this company. Its employees should be reaping the rewards of that success.
Something tells me they aren’t.
A lot of companies (most?), especially in the US, need to return to the social contract.
Strike! They are about to make $10 billion off a single game. That money needs to go to the talent.
They saying they got fired for leaks but I want them to break the ndas they made the fired workers sign to hear the workers side of all this
Fuck Rockstar and fuck Take Two (even though other than CDPR, Firaxis is the only “AAA” studio that I buy games from).
Why???
Buggy releases that are horrifically overpriced, go in completely wonky directions, and in general are so generic and repetitive and yet continue to push all other potential competition from the market.
Firaxis is awful.
Do you have an example because these 2 points seem like they are at odds with each other.
Those are high level examples.
Last Firaxis game I bought was Civ6 and while I played it for 50 hours or so, I mostly play Civ5 and Civ4 (and a whole variety of mods/conversations).
I can’t speak to Rockstar directly but I do know some game companies send anti-union propaganda emails regularly. To take the next step and fire people is entirely believable given when I’ve seen HR push out.
More or less all companies (that are legally allowed to (and some that aren’t)) send anti-union propaganda. Whether it is outright villification or just “We are your friends. Talk to us. If you form a union it is you saying we failed”. That is kind of just the nature of the game.
What matters is what happens when the workforce decides to unionize anyway. You can either respect it or do everything you can to slaughter your workforce.
Haha, your quote is almost the exact line I’ve read. HR email was literally saying how they should talk to them first and about them failing. Lol
My only thing with this is the claim is a glass cannon if its true. If no company resources were given out in this ordeal, if I was one of the 40 employees involved I would be leaking the forum messages publicly to show how there wasn’t any inside information involved. Make the entire case fall apart because if it’s shown no public info was involved, the claim it wasn’t over unionization becomes harder to fight. But I guess that is a better situation for in a court scenario.
It might not make up for the other shit they do, but at least Nintendo seems to treat its employees right