Logseq is planning on moving to a database model (database is the source of truth) whereas Obsidian is staying with your text files always being the source of truth
Saying Obsidian uses just TXT files suggest, that I could use any editor and that Obsidians file format is compatible with any editor.
That is technically the truth, but the problem is, that if I decide to use another editor I might get problems because of the lacking ability to usefully edit the metadata.
So, if I use Obsidian, the files are de facto not compatible with other editors.
Of course I could switch off of Obsidian and I have the raw data, so I am not locked in. But I think stating that obsidan uses just txt files without any explanation is a bit misleading.
Obsidian is just another WYSIWYG Editor.
What makes it a problwm is the MD-dialect they employ.
For example callouts in obsidian are not possible in the markdown flavor of vs-code.
I can’t do thiy in vscode
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But that is what I quite like and I found no other programs which handles as well as Obsidian.
Maybe some parts of vscode markdown with plugins closes the gap.
You won’t get any problems. I’ve done it before. If you make Obsidian use Markdown links you can even sort of make links to other files through other editors, but it’s a little janky still.
I’ve been using Quillpad for some time now. It’s kind of a “glorified markdown editor” (like Joplin) but stripped down to the only things I need: bullet lists for todo and grocery, quick notes, audio notes. Recently version 1.5 came out which allows to sync local files so it can now work with Syncthing and that made it an instant favourite for me
My biggest issue with all these Markdown editors is that the format is text only, forcing other files to be stored independently. It does not support embedded pictures, formulas, etc.
My perfect option uses some format that would allow text, pictures, audio and video, optional LaTeX formatting all in one file, and wouldn’t be constrained to a single application that can run it all. At least some apps supporting it should be in a note-taking layout, not a standard office program.
Mobile support would be a banger, too, but is optional.
Essentially, I want a OneNote-like experience without walled garden, bundled in a way that would allow it to be painlessly exported into several other pieces of software, available on Linux.
Not OpenSource, but free, reliable and private, online right in your browser, it’s a complete word processor, you can also edit Html, select webpages and paste it in the editor which conserve the original UI with all working links, Files and documets are stored locally in .htm, .pdf or .txt. Blazing fast and works also in mobile, even as PWA.
(Part of the SSuite, it’s a hobby project of two elictricians which make money with their workshop, not with these apps, no commercial interests, no ads, logs, tracking or othe crap, no account)
P.S. Seems more like a general purpose editor with a twist, though, and not a solid note-taking solition upon the first glance. Thanks for the recommendation anyway!
Well, you can use it as such, storing the notes locally with the corresponding title.
You’ll find a lot more on the SSuite, maybe there you’ll find something els which may serve you, anyway good to bookmark it, it’s pretty usefull.
But I also remember another app, an old Gem, OpenSource which may fullfit your needs, it’s a very powerfull tree style note taking app, rich text format and if you need, also syntax highlighting for programming scripts. (Windows, Linux) (.rtf, .txt, scripts)
I split my notes/todos into multiple files, but I wrote a small program which basically just creates a file with a randomized name in a flat directory and then opens it in my default editor.
I just want to be able to start typing right away without worrying where to put the note or what to title it or whatever. Like, I will put a title on it and include some keywords to help me find things again, but I can do that later when I don’t need to noting things down…
Well, on desktop I’m actually quite happy with that setup. I like writing with my default editor, because I know all the keyboard shortcuts. And apparently, you can configure Joplin to use an external editor, but then I don’t know what it adds. I also really don’t want to be running an Electron app at all times.
On mobile, I might have more of a use for it. In particular, I need reminders there. But I’m not happy with the sync format that it uses. It adds a lot of metadata and additional files, and names the note files with UUIDs. I’m guessing, it will likely also not be able to load files that I’ve created on my desktop by hand, because those will be missing all the metadata.
So yeah, if I get desperate, this might be another choice in the future, but not for now.
I concur with the article. I’ve tried various tools but I keep coming back to text files in vim. Recently I’ve been using a notes/ directory with a bash function to quickly create and edit a named text file for a new topic. That gives me the little bit of organization and separation for isolated tasks, while still having a main notes.txt file for miscellaneous notes and todos. I really like being able to stay in the terminal and using ripgrep for everything.
I’m very happy with Things. Been using it for 7 years with an occasional dip into Todoist and Apple Reminders just out of interest, but always coming back to Things.
It fits exactly how my brain works. The only annoyance is that I cannot tick off recurring tasks before they are scheduled.
Same! Once I can get a way to magically sync a Markdown file to a piece of paper It’ll be perfect. In theory you can OCR from paper to a file pretty easily now.
So far the best for me is a mix of Google’s Tasks and Notes.
Both hide ticked of tasks, have functional reminders and are accessible from any authenticated device (to be edited).
All others I’ve tried, lack the hiding of the ticked boxes requiring one to create new pages divided by months, weeks or some other divider.
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I miss the days when all the best plans were hastily scribbled on a cocktail napkin for later reference.
I use it with CalDAV via Baikal. Apple reminders support it and other CalDAV supported applications like thunderbird and tasks.org with DAVx5.
For a while I had been using the “To Do” list that’s built in through Hotmail and the iOS app.
But nowadays I’ve been using TickTick app for the to-do’s.
TickTick is incredible, I don’t know why it isn’t more popular.
I have 7500+ completed tasks so far.
Obsidian just stores the data as TXT files. Only now you can have formatting, links, tags, lists, charts, images, etc.
Logseq is very similar to Obsidian but it’s open source, if that matters. Doesn’t have the same extensibility through community plugins though.
Logseq is planning on moving to a database model (database is the source of truth) whereas Obsidian is staying with your text files always being the source of truth
That or Joplin. Created a checklist today for my trip and what to bring.
If Joplin had an android widget, it’d be perfect.
But a lot of meta-data is stored somewhere extra.
So? It’s stored in the same folder locally
Saying Obsidian uses just TXT files suggest, that I could use any editor and that Obsidians file format is compatible with any editor. That is technically the truth, but the problem is, that if I decide to use another editor I might get problems because of the lacking ability to usefully edit the metadata. So, if I use Obsidian, the files are de facto not compatible with other editors.
Of course I could switch off of Obsidian and I have the raw data, so I am not locked in. But I think stating that obsidan uses just txt files without any explanation is a bit misleading.
Obsidian is just another WYSIWYG Editor.
What makes it a problwm is the MD-dialect they employ.
For example callouts in obsidian are not possible in the markdown flavor of vs-code.
I can’t do thiy in vscode
But that is what I quite like and I found no other programs which handles as well as Obsidian.
Maybe some parts of vscode markdown with plugins closes the gap.
You won’t get any problems. I’ve done it before. If you make Obsidian use Markdown links you can even sort of make links to other files through other editors, but it’s a little janky still.
I just use a physical bullet journal. I always dislike manufactured books/apps etc.
I’ve been using Quillpad for some time now. It’s kind of a “glorified markdown editor” (like Joplin) but stripped down to the only things I need: bullet lists for todo and grocery, quick notes, audio notes. Recently version 1.5 came out which allows to sync local files so it can now work with Syncthing and that made it an instant favourite for me
Same. The only thing I wish it had is the ability to embed images.
My biggest issue with all these Markdown editors is that the format is text only, forcing other files to be stored independently. It does not support embedded pictures, formulas, etc.
My perfect option uses some format that would allow text, pictures, audio and video, optional LaTeX formatting all in one file, and wouldn’t be constrained to a single application that can run it all. At least some apps supporting it should be in a note-taking layout, not a standard office program.
Mobile support would be a banger, too, but is optional.
Essentially, I want a OneNote-like experience without walled garden, bundled in a way that would allow it to be painlessly exported into several other pieces of software, available on Linux.
Any ideas on that?
xournal++, you can write text with your keyboard, latex, you can add audio
you can’t add video though
Not sure it fits entirely, but this seems like a superb option for handwritten digital notes which I’d also like to see!
Useful for when I need to quickly insert some formula or figure.
Not OpenSource, but free, reliable and private, online right in your browser, it’s a complete word processor, you can also edit Html, select webpages and paste it in the editor which conserve the original UI with all working links, Files and documets are stored locally in .htm, .pdf or .txt. Blazing fast and works also in mobile, even as PWA.
https://bluevelvet.ssuiteoffice.com/
(Part of the SSuite, it’s a hobby project of two elictricians which make money with their workshop, not with these apps, no commercial interests, no ads, logs, tracking or othe crap, no account)
Thanks! Will check it out
P.S. Seems more like a general purpose editor with a twist, though, and not a solid note-taking solition upon the first glance. Thanks for the recommendation anyway!
Well, you can use it as such, storing the notes locally with the corresponding title. You’ll find a lot more on the SSuite, maybe there you’ll find something els which may serve you, anyway good to bookmark it, it’s pretty usefull.
But I also remember another app, an old Gem, OpenSource which may fullfit your needs, it’s a very powerfull tree style note taking app, rich text format and if you need, also syntax highlighting for programming scripts. (Windows, Linux) (.rtf, .txt, scripts)
https://github.com/giuspen/cherrytree
https://www.giuspen.net/cherrytree/#downl
Appears to be, yep
Obsidian to an extent? Maybe? Idk.
Not really, still MD-based :(
Closest to that were Trilium and Zettlr, but again, they store media separately and address it in inconvenient ways.
How so?
I configured Obsidian to throw all media files in one directory.
All files are referenced by a common picture link
LogSeq
I concur with the article. I’ve tried various tools but I keep coming back to text files in vim. Recently I’ve been using a
notes/directory with a bash function to quickly create and edit a named text file for a new topic. That gives me the little bit of organization and separation for isolated tasks, while still having a mainnotes.txtfile for miscellaneous notes and todos. I really like being able to stay in the terminal and using ripgrep for everything.I’m very happy with Things. Been using it for 7 years with an occasional dip into Todoist and Apple Reminders just out of interest, but always coming back to Things.
It fits exactly how my brain works. The only annoyance is that I cannot tick off recurring tasks before they are scheduled.
I find it even easier just not to do things in the first place.
For me it’s just .md files.
Same! Once I can get a way to magically sync a Markdown file to a piece of paper It’ll be perfect. In theory you can OCR from paper to a file pretty easily now.
So far the best for me is a mix of Google’s Tasks and Notes.
Both hide ticked of tasks, have functional reminders and are accessible from any authenticated device (to be edited).
All others I’ve tried, lack the hiding of the ticked boxes requiring one to create new pages divided by months, weeks or some other divider.